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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7413466" data-attributes="member: 82106">Right, but 4e's Elemental Chaos simply improved on this drastically in terms of 'adventurability'. All the elements exist in the EC, as well as an open-ended list of 'domains'. You can have a region of pure fire if you want, those exist, as well as regions of fire+ice (and the resulting fogs and steams I would assume). Its an infinite place, so anything must exist somewhere. I mean, I'm sure you could put the same things in the old GW version of the inner planes, it just wasn't how it was envisaged. You kind of had to adulterate the concept, whereas the WA version does it naturally. I think when he says pointless he means stuff that will never really matter and probably won't even ever come up. Things that literally are just in the book and you read them, but they never show at the table at all.but she is quite a Mary Sue nonetheless. I always found Sigil to be a bit silly myself, though I admit that it at least has gaming potential. In some sense it seemed kind of TOO gamist. Its interesting that this is one of the few locations in GW that is directly reproduced with almost no changes in 4e WA.I disagree about the Planescape GW. Its very concept is something that is inevitable, inexorable, has existed forever, and has a structure, purpose, and function entirely beyond even the gods who seem to live on it as basically vermin. Obviously you can change that, but in any larger sense, as written, it is vastly beyond what any PC can affect.The World Axis of 4e OTOH is quite the opposite. The struggle between the order of the gods and the chaos of the primordials is fundamental, but approachable. The stakes are human and comprehensible, and a small band of heroes could easily be the most influential actors in the entire grand scheme, the lynchpins of the defense/destruction of the whole multiverse, or at least the world itself.And its a stage on which everything is not set. While the GW is vast and you could certainly invent some niche to cram anything into, the WA is fundamentally open. There's always room for another Astral Dominion or Elemental Realm in there. 4e's MotP starts out with a whole discussion of how to USE the material in play, and quite a lot of it is directly usable without further preparation, up to a point. Its a masterful blend of possibility, color, and crunch.</blockquote>

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