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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 7417754" data-attributes="member: 85555">Aldarc, I share a lot of Imaro's sentiments here. I think you and Hussar are trying to have it both ways, on the one hand saying "this is just my opinion and if you object you are reacting because you feel morally judged", on the other hand saying "but this is a real problem the hobby needs to address". I don't know. In terms of published content, people are addressing all kinds of concerns and approaches to world building. There are plenty of people out there offering very lean content with random methods for generating things like names in play (and I make pretty good use of that stuff myself), there are also people putting out more in depth material. It is a spectrum. I think the ideal scenario is one where a number of approaches are available. Seems to be close to what we have now. Especially with so much compatible material out there under the OGL and similar arrangements. In terms of personal games and campaigns, you keep saying it is just his preference, but then you say things like that the issues he presents are pitfalls even good GMs succumb to. You say these are problems. And problems presumably need addressing. So we looked at his list and responses. Again, we take issues with those individual points, because we don't find them to be problematic in our own games, and we think his solutions, would make our games worse. I don't know how you want us to respond to his statements. If he is free to say he thinks this or that aspect of world building is a problem, we're free to point out where we think his solutions and criticisms are a problem. You keep saying you don't respond to our points because they've either been responded to, they are unconvincing, or you believe deep down we feel morally shamed and are projecting...leaving aside the bizarre quality of the last point, I think it is fair for us to point out, we don't find his points convincing. We can do this dance all day, if this is just a contest of wills. If it is a conversation, people need to respond to at least some of the points being made.</blockquote>

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