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<blockquote data-quote="NewJeffCT" data-source="post: 6252127" data-attributes="member: 10784">I can't see a CR:21 dragon being a match for a party of 6 PCs that are level 25 unless the dragon has several advantages working in its favor:1) If you're insistent on using Anti-Magic field, make it an ancient dragon or a wyrm and give the dragon Widen Spell as a feat. That way, it makes it a 20' radius field instead of 10'.1a) Ranged touch spells that conjure something outside the AMF will still damage the dragon (all of the Orb spells, Meteor Swarm, Crystal Shard psionic power, etc)2) If that's dispelled, the dragon will maybe have Scintillating Scales as a contingency spell.&nbsp; That gives the dragon his natural armor bonus as a bonus to his touch AC... touch AC can be the death of a dragon, as most casters would likely miss the dragon's regular touch AC only on a natural 1 at that level.&nbsp; (As a player of mine once said, &quot;what dragon wouldn't have that spell ready?&quot;)3) As an alternative, have the dragon Gate in a Fiendish Beholder and the beholder can use its anti-magic ray on the party, leaving the dragon free to do its attacks, including ranged touch spells.4) Even if the AMF works, you still have six high level PCs that can attack the dragon and still do a good amount of damage to it.&nbsp; (If this epic level party has artifacts, they would not be affected by the AMF)(I had a party of 8 PCs that were level 13 take out a CR:16 dragon almost in one round - even after the dragon flattened 2 PCs with its Crush power on its surprise round...)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NewJeffCT, post: 6252127, member: 10784"] I can't see a CR:21 dragon being a match for a party of 6 PCs that are level 25 unless the dragon has several advantages working in its favor: 1) If you're insistent on using Anti-Magic field, make it an ancient dragon or a wyrm and give the dragon Widen Spell as a feat. That way, it makes it a 20' radius field instead of 10'. 1a) Ranged touch spells that conjure something outside the AMF will still damage the dragon (all of the Orb spells, Meteor Swarm, Crystal Shard psionic power, etc) 2) If that's dispelled, the dragon will maybe have Scintillating Scales as a contingency spell. That gives the dragon his natural armor bonus as a bonus to his touch AC... touch AC can be the death of a dragon, as most casters would likely miss the dragon's regular touch AC only on a natural 1 at that level. (As a player of mine once said, "what dragon wouldn't have that spell ready?") 3) As an alternative, have the dragon Gate in a Fiendish Beholder and the beholder can use its anti-magic ray on the party, leaving the dragon free to do its attacks, including ranged touch spells. 4) Even if the AMF works, you still have six high level PCs that can attack the dragon and still do a good amount of damage to it. (If this epic level party has artifacts, they would not be affected by the AMF) (I had a party of 8 PCs that were level 13 take out a CR:16 dragon almost in one round - even after the dragon flattened 2 PCs with its Crush power on its surprise round...) [/QUOTE]

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