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<blockquote data-quote="SableWyvern" data-source="post: 9675487" data-attributes="member: 1008">No, these aren't things I think about only in retrospect, but are things I have actually thought about when actively deciding which games to play and all my opinions have formed after I had access to both games. In fact, it is probably safe to say that I am an utterly atypical example, which your model is completely unprepared to deal with. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Other than a handful of sessions of BECMI Basic and some very brief dalliances with 2e, I completely ignored D&amp;D in all forms for my first 15 years in the hobby. I then jumped on 3e at the time of it's release, and this was the first time I ever gave D&amp;D a fair shake. I gave 4e a spin and then, around 2010, I decided I wanted to give this dungeon crawling thing a go. Pretty much all my current opinions about 1e, 2e and B/X have been formed in the last 15 years, at a time when I have been able to compare and contrast all three, with no interference from nostalgia or previous ideas about how the game worked. I have no nostalgia for D&amp;D and no misconceptions based on distant memories, because I grew up in the hobby as a Rolemaster snob who thought D&amp;D was mostly for inane hack-and-slash gaming with nonsense dungeons and rooms full of monsters and treasure.My opinion on bards, specifically, was formed in the mid-90s, when a friend wanted to run some 2e and I had played neither 1e nor 2e yet. I had, however, read the 1e PHB and thought bards were evocative and great, while simultaneously having zero interest in the 2e version. If the DM at the time had said 1e bards were off the table, I would not have a played a 2e bard, but something else entirely.As an aside, I think 1 minute rounds are great, too, and should have been kept (despite the fact that the 1 minute round and dungeon movement rates were things I mocked in the 80s and 90s).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SableWyvern, post: 9675487, member: 1008"] No, these aren't things I think about only in retrospect, but are things I have actually thought about when actively deciding which games to play and all my opinions have formed after I had access to both games. In fact, it is probably safe to say that I am an utterly atypical example, which your model is completely unprepared to deal with. ;) Other than a handful of sessions of BECMI Basic and some very brief dalliances with 2e, I completely ignored D&D in all forms for my first 15 years in the hobby. I then jumped on 3e at the time of it's release, and this was the first time I ever gave D&D a fair shake. I gave 4e a spin and then, around 2010, I decided I wanted to give this dungeon crawling thing a go. Pretty much all my current opinions about 1e, 2e and B/X have been formed in the last 15 years, at a time when I have been able to compare and contrast all three, with no interference from nostalgia or previous ideas about how the game worked. I have no nostalgia for D&D and no misconceptions based on distant memories, because I grew up in the hobby as a Rolemaster snob who thought D&D was mostly for inane hack-and-slash gaming with nonsense dungeons and rooms full of monsters and treasure. My opinion on bards, specifically, was formed in the mid-90s, when a friend wanted to run some 2e and I had played neither 1e nor 2e yet. I had, however, read the 1e PHB and thought bards were evocative and great, while simultaneously having zero interest in the 2e version. If the DM at the time had said 1e bards were off the table, I would not have a played a 2e bard, but something else entirely. As an aside, I think 1 minute rounds are great, too, and should have been kept (despite the fact that the 1 minute round and dungeon movement rates were things I mocked in the 80s and 90s). [/QUOTE]

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