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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9724127" data-attributes="member: 7808">If we can look past some of the more unpleasant connotations of word choices, I think there is a significant branch of RPGs that really have evolved in this general direction.I don't want to derail the thread, but check out gaming discussions about "failing forward", or "Yes, and..." gameplay.  Compare that to things like level drain or the traps in the Temple of Elemental Evil.  It's really not that big of a stretch to say that these extremes could be summed up as "Chutes and Ladders*" and "Ladders without Chutes".  From a certain point of view.*Note: That's Snakes and Ladders for yous guys in England or India.  I don't know which version Australia got, but I assume chutes are poisonous there so it doesn't matter.</blockquote>