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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9802042" data-attributes="member: 4348">We still used Gold for XP in 2e.  It was stupid not too.  Unless one uses the completely arbitrary story awards which have no real basis (IMO) of what standard to really rely on except DM judgement and the "feel" of it in an analogous way to some suggestions, levelling is slowed down to a snails pace in 2e comparatively to other editions without the Gold for XP option.We didn't use story awards (often).Overall, though, with that, 2e core was really just a cleaned up 1e.  With the inclusion (for those who read it) of the Grandfather clause (everything in 1e was grandfathered into 2e, thus 2e also was ALL of 1e with you being able to pick and choose which rule to use if they conflicted), the core rules of 2e were basically just a version of 1e.The problem for me is with all the additions that came in and made it overly complicated or broken (many of the complete books, Spells and Powers, etc).  That's what is the real division between what some 2e players love and 1e.  I love the 2e core rules for some of the things they made easier and simpler (I actually really like 2e's take on THACO and I prefer the 2e initiative rules for example).However, throwing everything in 2e and the kitchen sink (all the supplements and other rule additions) made 2e overly large and burdensome to handle.That right there is one big reason to prefer 1e.  Even with all the 1e hardback rulebooks you had far less to know and remember than if you had all the 2e rulebooks at the table.</blockquote>

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