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Message: <blockquote data-quote="barsoomcore" data-source="post: 1573909" data-attributes="member: 812">What are you talking about? This is sheerest nonsense.Unless you're trying to convince me that I should just completely ignore PCGen for the rest of its existence, and tell everyone who shares my needs to not even bother. Is that your point? That I should just shut up and find some development group that actually cares about what I want?This is NOT the attitude I've come to expect from PCGen folks -- who in my experience have been sensible, committed programmers trying very hard to create an extremely complex tool. And doing a good job. My job, as a committed user, is to indicate my needs when the opportunity arises and point out the product's shortcomings. You don't like that, you're in the wrong business.Statements like this reflect poorly on the PCGen team.I understand that. I even SAID that. I think they're wrong, and I think the evidence (PCGen's terrible interface, numerous fatal bugs and obtuse methods of customization) supports me.The big secret of leadership is -- if the team won't do it, you're going to have to do it. Figure out a build process that automatically runs the tests. Fix the issues that break the build. Only bring programmers onto the team who are willing to work according to the process.You don't have to let every willing hand help out. Just because you're not paying people doesn't mean you can't fire them.I make movies with entirely unpaid crews and let me tell you, if somebody doesn't follow instructions they are OFF my set RIGHT NOW. The other crew members see that and they think, "Hey, these people mean business. They don't let just any yahoo on board. Hey, I must be okay if they haven't fired me yet. I must know what I'm doing. Cool." People WANT to be held accountable for their mistakes. They WANT to be treated like professionals, even if they're not being paid.Maybe ESPECIALLY if they're not being paid.The "We're Open Source, we can't follow proper processes" line is bunk. I don't FORCE my people to write unit tests. I HIRE people who write unit tests. There's no reason PCGen can't do the same thing.Open Source software should be held to HIGHER standards than commercial software, because the pressures of time-to-market are lower, so there's TIME to do things the right way.Sorry, got on a bit of rant there. Of the things I feel strongly about, software development leadership is close to the top of the list.See, this is my position exactly. If the product was USELESS, I wouldn't bother posting my concerns and wants. It's almost AWESOME. But the failures are so complete, so debilitating that it breaks my heart to see.If the team can gather the vision and leadership to fix the failures, PCGen is going to be an amazing product.</blockquote>

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