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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4909093" data-attributes="member: 16285">But that check is not for changing the attitude of a person - which is specifically what Wild Empathy is used for. In fact the DMG II gives a specific DC (different than the one for changing attitudes) to "direct a crowd". No the Englaish language works exactly as I'm assuming.You have given 2 examples to support your argument that apply to entirely different conditions and are saying they work for this one.Let's look at the entire text for Wild EmpathyFrom the SRD (not as good as the PHB since it is missing the "example" which serves to clarify the text.In multiple places it uses the singular text not the generic or plural text.From the SRD for DiplomacyDiplomacy to change the attitude of a person can be used on multiple people but the check is made on an individual basis.Also note that the initial attitude of a swarm must be considered "Hostile" since it will "attack" instead of "mislead, or avoid" (which is Unfriendly.The DC to change the attitude of a Hostile creature is 20 to go to unfriendly</blockquote>