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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1911987" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Heh. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Why is that making stuff up, which I wrote?</p><p></p><p>The feat says "immediately" and "if you gain Hit Dice in levels of nonspellcasting classes, you might be able to apply the rest of the bonus", thus implying that you do not apply the rest of the bonus "continuous". Those two phrases describe when you gain benefit of the feat. The description is certainly not exhaustive (i.e. not covering level loss situations), but it's clear enough to me that they mean, that PS gives a permanent bonus/change to your caster level, not a bonus which is constantly lingering about waiting to come to use at any given moment. It doesn't say anything about that, and as you have noted, there is no order in which bonuses are applied, other than the order in which they were gained, so even then, PS would do nothing in combination with WM, since it must always be applied first, as WM is not active all the time for sure.</p><p></p><p>And it also seems to be the most reasonable way to let this work, otherwise it would let you ignore caster level penalties (i.e. from Energy Drain attacks), which does not seem very related to the feat and certainly does not seem to be the intent, much less that Wild Magic abuse, which is very obviously not the intent of Wild Magic. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1911987, member: 478"] Heh. :D Why is that making stuff up, which I wrote? The feat says "immediately" and "if you gain Hit Dice in levels of nonspellcasting classes, you might be able to apply the rest of the bonus", thus implying that you do not apply the rest of the bonus "continuous". Those two phrases describe when you gain benefit of the feat. The description is certainly not exhaustive (i.e. not covering level loss situations), but it's clear enough to me that they mean, that PS gives a permanent bonus/change to your caster level, not a bonus which is constantly lingering about waiting to come to use at any given moment. It doesn't say anything about that, and as you have noted, there is no order in which bonuses are applied, other than the order in which they were gained, so even then, PS would do nothing in combination with WM, since it must always be applied first, as WM is not active all the time for sure. And it also seems to be the most reasonable way to let this work, otherwise it would let you ignore caster level penalties (i.e. from Energy Drain attacks), which does not seem very related to the feat and certainly does not seem to be the intent, much less that Wild Magic abuse, which is very obviously not the intent of Wild Magic. ;) Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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