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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Teflon Billy" data-source="post: 3030035" data-attributes="member: 264">Sure. In fact I've already done so.City State of the Invicible Overlord is a reworking of the 1E Judges Guild product of the same name. It lacks the "good vs Evil Obsession" I'm talking about.And you probably won't. But read the boards here for awhile, and come across any of the myriad "Do you allow Evil PC's" threads and you'll beging to get a feel for how the game is currently being played by the masses.The most repeated comment against allowing evil PC's is "My game is about a Heroes fighting evil, there is no place for Evil PC's in my game"So, for whatever reason, since the dawn of 3E I've witnessed a jump in pollyanna "heroes only" Roleplaying. Your mileage may vary, but my commentary would pass a polygraph.Well, I would debate whether Greyhawk is the base world for 3rd edition, given that it has, like, two books to Forgotten Realms' 20-ish. I mean, I'll agree that that's certainly the Ad Copy (and given your repeated requests for Core rules cites I can see how you might well take that at face value over real-world experience), but it doesn't look like that's how it actually pans out. But I digress...Sure. There was Iuz, but if memory serves, several of the heroes (Rary and Robilar maybe) went evil and fought their compatriots as their goals diverged. Didn't Rary set himself up as an evil king in some desert nation?Check the Forgotten Realms Campaign setting. Good nations vs evil Nations and Good Superherpoic NPC's vs Already Defeated Evil Supervillainous NPCs. 20 Books to 2.That's all I need to see on that subject. How do they sell compared to Forgotten Realms? Well, it wasn't my quote, but I think I can safely say--having read it--that there's nothing in there to imply any lack of knowledge about what "elves are supposed to be like"Because the statement "what elves are supposed to be like" is utter nonsense.I'm not sure who named you the "elf police" and where you got the bible regarding what "elves are supposed to be like" (Nocturnal Shoemakers? North Pole Toy Manufacturers? Wolf Riding Forest Dwellers? Angelic Warriors who can see other dimensions?...all as valid as the others--which is to say all are from literature), but for you to come in and start a snippy lecture about it is beyond the pale.Ahhh, I"m getting it now. You are one of those  "tolkien elf enthusiasts" that plague the game.Well, there's really nothing to argue here...you admit yourself that "D&D is to blame for elves who are etc etc etc..." and we are talking about D&D, so....Yet somehow you sound like you think my tastes are wrong.</blockquote>

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