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<blockquote data-quote="DammitVictor" data-source="post: 9805315" data-attributes="member: 6750908"><p>Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, or maybe I just don't have any better hobbies, but I think these are <em>solvable problems</em>. Even on a cultural level, but <em>especially </em>on an individual table-by-table level.</p><p></p><p>I've had <em>some luck</em> with my "house rules", and I've had some luck with <strong><em>Brown M&M*s </em></strong>in my online application processes. I feel like those individual coping strategies would be <em>more effective </em>for <em>more people</em> if there were more cultural awareness of this problem outside of the <em>"Mos Eisley Cantina Problem" </em>and the debate between the <em>"Judge Dredd" </em>and <em>"Blazing Saddles" </em>solutions to it.</p><p></p><p>Insisting on what you want doesn't always mean you get it, but giving up on it always means you don't.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There are better players out there. According to the people who disagree with me-- and I <strong><em>believe them</em></strong>-- most players are either better than this or <em>want to be</em>. Nobody actually wants to be the guy running the wrong game, any more than they want to run the game that's been hijacked by trolls; nobody actually wants to be playing in the wrong game, any more than they want their character to be ignored and/or persecuted by a passive-aggressive DM.</p><p></p><p>Everyone wants this problem to be solved, so they can enjoy playing the kinds of games they want to play. They just think it's <em>everybody else's fault</em> and therefore <em>everyone else's problem</em>. You can make your games better for yourself, and the more other umpires and players try to do the same thing, the easier it's going to be for everyone.</p><p> </p><p>* Van Halen, in the Eighties, used to have a provision in their contracts for live performances that they required a big bowl of M&Ms (at least five pounds) with all of the brown ones picked out. No bowl, bowl too small, a <strong><em>single</em></strong> brown M&M... And they walked. Breach of contract, kill fee, the whole works. For years, metal fans used to use this as an example of the <em>prima donna </em>mentality of party rock and glam metal performers.</p><p></p><p>Thing is, Van Halen shows involved a lot of stunt choreography and pyrotechnic displays. The kind of crowd-pleasing showmanship that <strong><em>almost killed </em></strong>Michael Jackson and James Hetfield a few years later. A five pound bowl of M&Ms in their dressing room told them someone at the venue <strong><em>read the contract</em></strong>; the absence of brown M&Ms in that bowl told them they <strong><em>honored the terms</em></strong>.</p><p></p><p>I'll admit, for as much as I bitch about selfish and lazy players (because I'm <em>usually </em>the umpire), they've never actually set me on fire. Especially online. But why risk it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitVictor, post: 9805315, member: 6750908"] Maybe I'm a hopeless optimist, or maybe I just don't have any better hobbies, but I think these are [I]solvable problems[/I]. Even on a cultural level, but [I]especially [/I]on an individual table-by-table level. I've had [I]some luck[/I] with my "house rules", and I've had some luck with [B][I]Brown M&M*s [/I][/B]in my online application processes. I feel like those individual coping strategies would be [I]more effective [/I]for [I]more people[/I] if there were more cultural awareness of this problem outside of the [I]"Mos Eisley Cantina Problem" [/I]and the debate between the [I]"Judge Dredd" [/I]and [I]"Blazing Saddles" [/I]solutions to it. Insisting on what you want doesn't always mean you get it, but giving up on it always means you don't. There are better players out there. According to the people who disagree with me-- and I [B][I]believe them[/I][/B]-- most players are either better than this or [I]want to be[/I]. Nobody actually wants to be the guy running the wrong game, any more than they want to run the game that's been hijacked by trolls; nobody actually wants to be playing in the wrong game, any more than they want their character to be ignored and/or persecuted by a passive-aggressive DM. Everyone wants this problem to be solved, so they can enjoy playing the kinds of games they want to play. They just think it's [I]everybody else's fault[/I] and therefore [I]everyone else's problem[/I]. You can make your games better for yourself, and the more other umpires and players try to do the same thing, the easier it's going to be for everyone. * Van Halen, in the Eighties, used to have a provision in their contracts for live performances that they required a big bowl of M&Ms (at least five pounds) with all of the brown ones picked out. No bowl, bowl too small, a [B][I]single[/I][/B] brown M&M... And they walked. Breach of contract, kill fee, the whole works. For years, metal fans used to use this as an example of the [I]prima donna [/I]mentality of party rock and glam metal performers. Thing is, Van Halen shows involved a lot of stunt choreography and pyrotechnic displays. The kind of crowd-pleasing showmanship that [B][I]almost killed [/I][/B]Michael Jackson and James Hetfield a few years later. A five pound bowl of M&Ms in their dressing room told them someone at the venue [B][I]read the contract[/I][/B]; the absence of brown M&Ms in that bowl told them they [B][I]honored the terms[/I][/B]. I'll admit, for as much as I bitch about selfish and lazy players (because I'm [I]usually [/I]the umpire), they've never actually set me on fire. Especially online. But why risk it? [/QUOTE]
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