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<blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9808200" data-attributes="member: 7808"><p>This is actually part of the reason why <em><strong>dislike </strong></em>the more modern acceptance of a gonzo party as the default state of D&D. When I roleplay non-humans, I want to explore the differences in being a non-human race. Not the humanity of one. </p><p></p><p>If a human character says "we're all just people", that could be a highly offensive thing to say to a non-human character who doesn't view themselves as just another type of human. IMNSHO, an elf or tiefling should consider that a great insult. They are great races with generations of identity that separate them from humans, so why should anyone assume it's a good thing for humans to consider them one of their own?</p><p></p><p>Half elves are probably the best example of a game option that has completely lost their identity to the circus troupe trope. Originally, they were default oddballs. Not accepted by elves, not welcomed by humans. One of the main reasons to roleplay a half elf was to explore what it was like to be a racial outcast who doesn't truly fit in either world. The hardship of not having a home, the challenge of finding acceptance, and leaning how to handle acceptance. Now, in 5e, that entire racial identity has been demoted to a feat. And it's basically impossible to roleplay an outcast like that in a world that doesn't even notice when an undead or demon walks through the doors of a tavern. It's an entire story archetype that I played in earlier editions of D&D that has been either wiped out or at least minimized in 5e under the guise of "they're all people".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deset Gled, post: 9808200, member: 7808"] This is actually part of the reason why [I][B]dislike [/B][/I]the more modern acceptance of a gonzo party as the default state of D&D. When I roleplay non-humans, I want to explore the differences in being a non-human race. Not the humanity of one. If a human character says "we're all just people", that could be a highly offensive thing to say to a non-human character who doesn't view themselves as just another type of human. IMNSHO, an elf or tiefling should consider that a great insult. They are great races with generations of identity that separate them from humans, so why should anyone assume it's a good thing for humans to consider them one of their own? Half elves are probably the best example of a game option that has completely lost their identity to the circus troupe trope. Originally, they were default oddballs. Not accepted by elves, not welcomed by humans. One of the main reasons to roleplay a half elf was to explore what it was like to be a racial outcast who doesn't truly fit in either world. The hardship of not having a home, the challenge of finding acceptance, and leaning how to handle acceptance. Now, in 5e, that entire racial identity has been demoted to a feat. And it's basically impossible to roleplay an outcast like that in a world that doesn't even notice when an undead or demon walks through the doors of a tavern. It's an entire story archetype that I played in earlier editions of D&D that has been either wiped out or at least minimized in 5e under the guise of "they're all people". [/QUOTE]
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