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Wildshape + Animal Growth =/= huge size
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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1151820" data-attributes="member: 1622"><p>It doesn't increase your size if you're already that size. It can reduce your size, if you're bigger than the creature. </p><p></p><p>Is polymorph then a spell that increases your strength? It could be, but it might not be.</p><p></p><p>There's a difference between "increasing" and setting. A spell that adds +6 to your strength is increasing your strength. A spell that sets your strength to 18 is not increasing your strength, it is simply setting it to a value. It might be higher, it might be lower, it might be the same, but it's not a "strength increasing spell" per se.</p><p></p><p>So are you saying that if you used polymorph on a half-ogre to change it into a tiger, it could be animal growthed, but do the same to a human, and it suddenly can't be animal growthed? Or are you saying you couldn't do it to the half ogre either, even though he's not even changing size?</p><p></p><p>It doesn't make any sense your way. A spell that "increases your size" increase it regardless of your starting size, a la Righteous Might or Enlarge Person. Polymorph changes your form, which sets your size to the size of the form (whether that's the same, smaller, or larger).</p><p></p><p>My way is always consistant, yours is not. I believe the designers intended it only to be spells that specifically say "you increase in size" a la enlarge person, righteous might, and animal growth. </p><p></p><p>I'd be interested in what the Sage has to say only as a curiosity, since I put very little faith in his replies. If Andy Collins were to state "I intended it to work this way" then I would attribute a lot more weight to the answer.</p><p></p><p>-The Souljourner</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 1151820, member: 1622"] It doesn't increase your size if you're already that size. It can reduce your size, if you're bigger than the creature. Is polymorph then a spell that increases your strength? It could be, but it might not be. There's a difference between "increasing" and setting. A spell that adds +6 to your strength is increasing your strength. A spell that sets your strength to 18 is not increasing your strength, it is simply setting it to a value. It might be higher, it might be lower, it might be the same, but it's not a "strength increasing spell" per se. So are you saying that if you used polymorph on a half-ogre to change it into a tiger, it could be animal growthed, but do the same to a human, and it suddenly can't be animal growthed? Or are you saying you couldn't do it to the half ogre either, even though he's not even changing size? It doesn't make any sense your way. A spell that "increases your size" increase it regardless of your starting size, a la Righteous Might or Enlarge Person. Polymorph changes your form, which sets your size to the size of the form (whether that's the same, smaller, or larger). My way is always consistant, yours is not. I believe the designers intended it only to be spells that specifically say "you increase in size" a la enlarge person, righteous might, and animal growth. I'd be interested in what the Sage has to say only as a curiosity, since I put very little faith in his replies. If Andy Collins were to state "I intended it to work this way" then I would attribute a lot more weight to the answer. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]
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