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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Corwin" data-source="post: 1153117" data-attributes="member: 1560">Wow, it's amazing how this was a pretty civilized discussion that wrapped up for the most part. Now a bunch of condescending (and some, wrong) people show up and try to "show me". Jeez. Lame.I already stated I could very well be wrong but this is the way I read it. I still do. Others as well. How are you people changing that? Nothing you've added is new to the discussion that Souljourner hasn't already said. Post count inflation? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Xavim: To claim SU effects aren't magical is laughable. And, yes, they are subject to antimagic. If your going to come in to a discussion to school someone, I advise you to first learn the curriculum. Especially when you toss around flagrant arrogance using statements like, "I think I can safely say that this closes the deal." Gaul.Besides that, my point about dispellability was in relation to melkoriii's comparison of reincarnate to polymorph. Last time I checked, those were both spells. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />Zaruthustran: If you'd bother to go back and read my posts, you'd see I was the one that brought up the fact that original size is not factored into a druid's Wildshape options. Where are you going with this? Are you trying to reiterate what I already said or something?You claim it's not broken. I beg to differ. Did you actually look at the numbers, or are you just interested in proving me wrong so you can continue to play a broken druid? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Take a 9th level druid and Wildshape him into a Dire Ape and animal growth him into Huge with DR 10/magic and the save bonuses. Tell me that isn't inappropriately sick...Don't just say it can't be that bad. Actually look at it.---I'm sorry folks if this seems like I'm getting a little defensive. But you people all come rushing in here effectively after the discussion has wound down and start ganging up and making undefendable claims. What's that about? Especially when some of it is patently BS or guess work. Really, I don’t mind other opinions. But don’t jump in here claiming you “know” the answer to a fuzzy question. Even Souljourner admits it isn’t completely clear. What do you know that we don’t?</blockquote>

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