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Wildshape + Animal Growth =/= huge size
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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1153263" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>Well... I'll start by saying that combat druids <em>are</em> over-powered - but not because of Animal Growth. With the squeazing rules in effect - Huge Size seems to be a disadvantage as often as not, even outside.</p><p></p><p>Druids can do some horrible things with tripping/grappling/rending - and the current state of the form changing rules (and FAQ), where they can take unarmed strikes at their normal number of attacks and do as much damage as any natural weapon they aren't taking natural weapon attacks with and still take all of their remaining natural weapon attacks - Druids with Improved Unarmed Strike and Greater Magic Fang have more strength than barbarians, more attacks than Monks, and penetrate DR as well as Fighters.</p><p></p><p>It's pretty much all crazy. Animal Growth rarely enters into it - as Huge Size is usually not desirable (and takes an all-important combat round where you could be eating like three people) - but the combat Druid <em>is</em> pretty over the top using the current mishmash of Form Changing/Unarmed Strike rules and rulings.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1153263, member: 14225"] Well... I'll start by saying that combat druids [i]are[/i] over-powered - but not because of Animal Growth. With the squeazing rules in effect - Huge Size seems to be a disadvantage as often as not, even outside. Druids can do some horrible things with tripping/grappling/rending - and the current state of the form changing rules (and FAQ), where they can take unarmed strikes at their normal number of attacks and do as much damage as any natural weapon they aren't taking natural weapon attacks with and still take all of their remaining natural weapon attacks - Druids with Improved Unarmed Strike and Greater Magic Fang have more strength than barbarians, more attacks than Monks, and penetrate DR as well as Fighters. It's pretty much all crazy. Animal Growth rarely enters into it - as Huge Size is usually not desirable (and takes an all-important combat round where you could be eating like three people) - but the combat Druid [i]is[/i] pretty over the top using the current mishmash of Form Changing/Unarmed Strike rules and rulings. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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