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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 1181971" data-attributes="member: 259">Yeah, I saw that, Mike.&nbsp; Given that it's factually incorrect (Polymorph is the same as alter self except for the listed changes, and alter self retains that language), I don't give it much credence <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.&nbsp; I can see how folks come down on either side of the issue.&nbsp; Honestly, however, druids don't need yet another reason to wildshape into bears.&nbsp; And one of the more fun and dramatic wildshape uses is to change into a bird to escape combat; if your hit-points are tied to your wildshaped con score, this trick becomes very dangerous indeed (birds have con scores of 10-12, and wildshaping into one could easily kill a wounded druid whose current con score is significantly higher).&nbsp;I much prefer for hit points to be amongst the character traits that don't change with one's form.&nbsp; And I play a druid.&nbsp;Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 1181971, member: 259"] Yeah, I saw that, [b]Mike[/b]. Given that it's factually incorrect (Polymorph is the same as alter self except for the listed changes, and alter self retains that language), I don't give it much credence :). I can see how folks come down on either side of the issue. Honestly, however, druids don't need yet another reason to wildshape into bears. And one of the more fun and dramatic wildshape uses is to change into a bird to escape combat; if your hit-points are tied to your wildshaped con score, this trick becomes very dangerous indeed (birds have con scores of 10-12, and wildshaping into one could easily kill a wounded druid whose current con score is significantly higher). I much prefer for hit points to be amongst the character traits that don't change with one's form. And I play a druid. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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