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Will 2011 be the last year of Wizards D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lancelot" data-source="post: 5402829" data-attributes="member: 30022"><p>I hope not... because they've handled the product better than most other companies likely would have. </p><p></p><p>In my group (8-10 players): 1) Red Box has been purchased by several players, for nostalgia if nothing else; 2) everyone loves Essentials; 3) we've had 4 players buy DDI subscriptions since the start of the year, and getting good use out of them.</p><p></p><p>WotC indeed has had some problems. But what's the alternative?</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to White Wolf. They'll make you yearn for the good old days when a Realms-Shaking event only invalidated *some* of the material that had been previously released for the setting. Driz'zt will be more angsty than ever, and every class will be renamed to something like <em>Wizard: the Fireballing</em>, or <em>Fighter: the Meatshielding</em>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to Fantasy Flight Games. D&D 5e will be a board game. It'll look incredible, and will have much better miniatures. But you'll need ten times as many "fiddly bits", and the game will be nigh unplayable until PH2, PH3, and the "revised" DMG are released.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to Mongoose Publishing. Wait for delays and disappointments in the release schedule. Eventually receive a sheepish apology that they <em>nearly</em> had the D&D license, but another company actually got to it before them.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to Games Workshop. Get a new edition every 3 years. Every class has it's own "classbook" that must be purchased independently of the core rules, and your character mini costs $40 (paint and assembly not included; non-approved minis may not be used).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to Paizo. Watch them re-release 4e (relabelled as 5e), fixing none of the problems with the rules... but adding new complexity, and making it even harder for new players to get into the game.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give the license to Palladium. Sound the trumpets for the arrival of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse.</li> </ul><p>No offense intended to any of the fine companies above, who all have their niche in the grand mosaic which is our hobby. However, I'm a little sick of hearing about WotC's supposed destruction of D&D. </p><p></p><p>At least they've been trying something new to simplify the game and attract new players. They've been fairly responsive to player feedback, both good and bad. Essentials, and some of the DDI initiatives, have been in direct response to some of what "we" have been saying. Their latest minis set has been one of the best ever. Some of the recent books have been exceptional: MM3 was one of the best MMs ever released, for any edition. The Dark Sun relaunch was good, and most people have been saying the Gamma World relaunch is <em>terrific</em>.</p><p></p><p>I hope they keep the license. I can forgive some of their mistakes, because I think they're good people, who mostly listen to their consumers, and continue providing me with quality gaming supplements for my dollars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lancelot, post: 5402829, member: 30022"] I hope not... because they've handled the product better than most other companies likely would have. In my group (8-10 players): 1) Red Box has been purchased by several players, for nostalgia if nothing else; 2) everyone loves Essentials; 3) we've had 4 players buy DDI subscriptions since the start of the year, and getting good use out of them. WotC indeed has had some problems. But what's the alternative? [LIST] [*]Give the license to White Wolf. They'll make you yearn for the good old days when a Realms-Shaking event only invalidated *some* of the material that had been previously released for the setting. Driz'zt will be more angsty than ever, and every class will be renamed to something like [I]Wizard: the Fireballing[/I], or [I]Fighter: the Meatshielding[/I]. [*]Give the license to Fantasy Flight Games. D&D 5e will be a board game. It'll look incredible, and will have much better miniatures. But you'll need ten times as many "fiddly bits", and the game will be nigh unplayable until PH2, PH3, and the "revised" DMG are released. [*]Give the license to Mongoose Publishing. Wait for delays and disappointments in the release schedule. Eventually receive a sheepish apology that they [I]nearly[/I] had the D&D license, but another company actually got to it before them. [*]Give the license to Games Workshop. Get a new edition every 3 years. Every class has it's own "classbook" that must be purchased independently of the core rules, and your character mini costs $40 (paint and assembly not included; non-approved minis may not be used). [*]Give the license to Paizo. Watch them re-release 4e (relabelled as 5e), fixing none of the problems with the rules... but adding new complexity, and making it even harder for new players to get into the game. [*]Give the license to Palladium. Sound the trumpets for the arrival of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse. [/LIST] No offense intended to any of the fine companies above, who all have their niche in the grand mosaic which is our hobby. However, I'm a little sick of hearing about WotC's supposed destruction of D&D. At least they've been trying something new to simplify the game and attract new players. They've been fairly responsive to player feedback, both good and bad. Essentials, and some of the DDI initiatives, have been in direct response to some of what "we" have been saying. Their latest minis set has been one of the best ever. Some of the recent books have been exceptional: MM3 was one of the best MMs ever released, for any edition. The Dark Sun relaunch was good, and most people have been saying the Gamma World relaunch is [I]terrific[/I]. I hope they keep the license. I can forgive some of their mistakes, because I think they're good people, who mostly listen to their consumers, and continue providing me with quality gaming supplements for my dollars. [/QUOTE]
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