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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 5403064" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>On the optimistic side: we haven't heard about the regular Christmas Wizards layoffs yet, have we? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm in a funny, conflicted place at present. Wizards have done a lot of really solid design and development work in 2010: Essentials is 4e designed by people who now understand the system (like 3.5e was mostly design by people who knew what 3e was about).</p><p></p><p>New systems are hard. They really, really are.</p><p></p><p>The Castle Ravenloft boardgame sold out. That is impressive.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, Wizards have been infuriating me with their less-than-stellar handling of DDi. They've made a few statements that are just flat-out wrong. (Yes, we *have* lost a lot of functionality with the new CB, sorry Paulo). And the inaccuracies with the Red Box (mainly thief, but there are others) mean that I really don't feel I can recommend it to new players.</p><p></p><p>The other part of my apprehension can be understood by looking at the books that Wizards have already put out. At this point, slightly over 2 years since 4e was released, the list of books that cover the core topics is pretty comprehensive. </p><p></p><p>When we look at what's coming up - after we subtract Dungeon Tiles and Essential books that redo what we have before, the list for 2011 so far is pretty thin:</p><p></p><p>Player's Option: Heroes of Shadow - March 15 2011</p><p>Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium - April 19 2011</p><p>The Shadowfell: Gloomwrought and Beyond. Box set - May 17 2011</p><p>Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale Box set - June 21 2011</p><p>Player's Option Handbook: Champions of the Heroic Tier - July 19 2011</p><p>Neverwinter Campaign Guide Forgotten Realms - August 2011</p><p></p><p>(I may be kind leaving in the Monster Vault and Heroes of Shadow).</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, in that time we should (hopefully) get two D&D board games. I'm really looking forward to them. It's good for the D&D brand to be more than just the RPG. But what does this mean for the RPG?</p><p></p><p>If we're lucky, there are unannounced books in the pipeline.</p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 5403064, member: 3586"] On the optimistic side: we haven't heard about the regular Christmas Wizards layoffs yet, have we? :) I'm in a funny, conflicted place at present. Wizards have done a lot of really solid design and development work in 2010: Essentials is 4e designed by people who now understand the system (like 3.5e was mostly design by people who knew what 3e was about). New systems are hard. They really, really are. The Castle Ravenloft boardgame sold out. That is impressive. Meanwhile, Wizards have been infuriating me with their less-than-stellar handling of DDi. They've made a few statements that are just flat-out wrong. (Yes, we *have* lost a lot of functionality with the new CB, sorry Paulo). And the inaccuracies with the Red Box (mainly thief, but there are others) mean that I really don't feel I can recommend it to new players. The other part of my apprehension can be understood by looking at the books that Wizards have already put out. At this point, slightly over 2 years since 4e was released, the list of books that cover the core topics is pretty comprehensive. When we look at what's coming up - after we subtract Dungeon Tiles and Essential books that redo what we have before, the list for 2011 so far is pretty thin: Player's Option: Heroes of Shadow - March 15 2011 Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium - April 19 2011 The Shadowfell: Gloomwrought and Beyond. Box set - May 17 2011 Monster Vault: Threats to the Nentir Vale Box set - June 21 2011 Player's Option Handbook: Champions of the Heroic Tier - July 19 2011 Neverwinter Campaign Guide Forgotten Realms - August 2011 (I may be kind leaving in the Monster Vault and Heroes of Shadow). Meanwhile, in that time we should (hopefully) get two D&D board games. I'm really looking forward to them. It's good for the D&D brand to be more than just the RPG. But what does this mean for the RPG? If we're lucky, there are unannounced books in the pipeline. Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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