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Will 2011 be the last year of Wizards D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5404472" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>No 4e video game because of licensing issues. </p><p></p><p>Like I said before though, there's little to no reason to drop a product line that is self-sufficient. Once you DROP it you have nothing. The game ceases to exist and you liquidate the assets associated with supporting it. If you can instantly turn those assets to some other product then you MIGHT do so, but as long as it doesn't lose you money it represents a capability that could be useful and is being maintained for free. Supposing for instance the people working on 4e can say work on a board game. Maybe you don't always need 10 guys to do board games but sometimes you do. If 8 of them can pay their salaries the other 9 months of the year they aren't working on board games writing 4e supplements that just break even, then you have no good reason to want to get rid of that business. </p><p></p><p>Obviously there are all kinds of ways to look at any business situation and many possible factors you could take into account. Again, if D&D were losing any significant amount of money and wasn't likely to turn around and make a bunch soon (and RPGs rarely make a bunch of money) you'd sell it off pretty quick. Not hearing anyone trying to hock 4e. It certainly has some not insignificant value as IP too, so nobody is going to be ultra quick to shut it down if there is even any chance of say selling off the rights. </p><p></p><p>In other words if 4e was going to be killed off/sold you'd first hear about rights being SOLD, then probably the people working on it dropped, and the product line would either be licensed or just wrapped up. It isn't happening. Look around. Sure, in theory anything could happen, but we don't even have the slightest evidence to indicate that 4e's core product line, rulebooks, is NOT making them decent money. </p><p></p><p>Seems more likely to me that the downhill scenario would actually be that other more lucrative projects simply siphon off developer time enough that the game enters a phase of low levels of support and very few new products. That COULD happen, but again there's little or no evidence of it yet. At most we have a few more D&D related board game type products being released this year. I wouldn't read a whole lot into that for a couple reasons. 1) there just aren't that many more books 4e needs, and 2) I'm not actually convinced we're getting less products. I see a book coming out almost every month in 2011 so far. Sure seems like they're pushing them out as fast as they can think up some new thing to produce to me. Even if they do put out few books for a while that doesn't really indicate the game is going away or in trouble, it just indicates they have a mature product line. Eventually someone will get itchy and 5e will show up at that point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5404472, member: 82106"] No 4e video game because of licensing issues. Like I said before though, there's little to no reason to drop a product line that is self-sufficient. Once you DROP it you have nothing. The game ceases to exist and you liquidate the assets associated with supporting it. If you can instantly turn those assets to some other product then you MIGHT do so, but as long as it doesn't lose you money it represents a capability that could be useful and is being maintained for free. Supposing for instance the people working on 4e can say work on a board game. Maybe you don't always need 10 guys to do board games but sometimes you do. If 8 of them can pay their salaries the other 9 months of the year they aren't working on board games writing 4e supplements that just break even, then you have no good reason to want to get rid of that business. Obviously there are all kinds of ways to look at any business situation and many possible factors you could take into account. Again, if D&D were losing any significant amount of money and wasn't likely to turn around and make a bunch soon (and RPGs rarely make a bunch of money) you'd sell it off pretty quick. Not hearing anyone trying to hock 4e. It certainly has some not insignificant value as IP too, so nobody is going to be ultra quick to shut it down if there is even any chance of say selling off the rights. In other words if 4e was going to be killed off/sold you'd first hear about rights being SOLD, then probably the people working on it dropped, and the product line would either be licensed or just wrapped up. It isn't happening. Look around. Sure, in theory anything could happen, but we don't even have the slightest evidence to indicate that 4e's core product line, rulebooks, is NOT making them decent money. Seems more likely to me that the downhill scenario would actually be that other more lucrative projects simply siphon off developer time enough that the game enters a phase of low levels of support and very few new products. That COULD happen, but again there's little or no evidence of it yet. At most we have a few more D&D related board game type products being released this year. I wouldn't read a whole lot into that for a couple reasons. 1) there just aren't that many more books 4e needs, and 2) I'm not actually convinced we're getting less products. I see a book coming out almost every month in 2011 so far. Sure seems like they're pushing them out as fast as they can think up some new thing to produce to me. Even if they do put out few books for a while that doesn't really indicate the game is going away or in trouble, it just indicates they have a mature product line. Eventually someone will get itchy and 5e will show up at that point. [/QUOTE]
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