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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 3741728" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I'm not keen on the idea because I've seen too many DMs use a 'plot device' as an excuse for railroading, for screwing over players, or otherwise being a bad DM. I'd rather that sort of thing not be encoded into the core rules of the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Presumably, these would be players who didn't bother to actually <em>read</em> the book, or who have selectively edited their memories, and particularly the sections where it says PrCs are explicitly under the control of the DM, that the DM has the right to adjust the rules to suit, and so forth?</p><p></p><p>Of course, there are bad players, just as there are bad DMs. But if it wasn't "plot devices" that such individuals were moaning about, it would just be something else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Recalculating things for ability damage is something of an overhead. Still, it's not <em>that</em> bad. I'm rather hoping they don't just get rid of it because some players find it hard to do that math on the fly (in much the same way you're are concerned about "balance" and "fun" over all).</p><p></p><p>For the spell durations, I don't see that as a huge problem. Leave the recovery rate the same, and make the spells instantaneous - the damage persists until healed. It's hardly the case that players can complain that that's too harsh - the previous version was effectively "save or die"!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 3741728, member: 22424"] I'm not keen on the idea because I've seen too many DMs use a 'plot device' as an excuse for railroading, for screwing over players, or otherwise being a bad DM. I'd rather that sort of thing not be encoded into the core rules of the game. Presumably, these would be players who didn't bother to actually [i]read[/i] the book, or who have selectively edited their memories, and particularly the sections where it says PrCs are explicitly under the control of the DM, that the DM has the right to adjust the rules to suit, and so forth? Of course, there are bad players, just as there are bad DMs. But if it wasn't "plot devices" that such individuals were moaning about, it would just be something else. Recalculating things for ability damage is something of an overhead. Still, it's not [i]that[/i] bad. I'm rather hoping they don't just get rid of it because some players find it hard to do that math on the fly (in much the same way you're are concerned about "balance" and "fun" over all). For the spell durations, I don't see that as a huge problem. Leave the recovery rate the same, and make the spells instantaneous - the damage persists until healed. It's hardly the case that players can complain that that's too harsh - the previous version was effectively "save or die"! [/QUOTE]
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