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<blockquote data-quote="JackSmithIV" data-source="post: 4691397" data-attributes="member: 74901"><p>And I will quote this for response:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And besides, you're being absurdly combative. Ie:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See, that's just kind of offensive. I'm excited. I didn't think I'd really need to <strong>justify</strong> my excitement to you. Just like I don't really need to <strong>justify</strong> the individual points of a post that are completely opinion. For some reason, you always seem to be looking for proof. Chill out. You are perfectly allowed to, and obviously do, disagree with most of it. And that's fine. I'm perfectly willing to be wrong. I'll respond, however...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a damn thick book. You can of course just disagree about the content, but every time I plan my campaign, which is entering it's 5th month, and will continue on until June? That's a <strong>hell</strong> of a lot of usage. And I'm always learning new things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right. It wouldn't have had the draw. But that's not what I'm arguing. And of course it would make sense that it'd be compared to past incarnations. My hypothetical was mostly geared toward those who were discovering it for the first time, and therefor for them they literally had no past incarnations of the Realms that were coloring their opinion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you're misunderstanding my argument completely. I'm not trying to pretend the old one didn't exist. I'm trying to say that it's pretentious to deem it a "bad" product because largely, it's "bad" to people for reasons that don't exist for a large amount of players. And I don't have to provide proof, because there is none, because I'm stating something from my personal experience which may or may not be correct.</p><p></p><p>Oh no, there I go with that opinion stuff again. I should just stick to the <strong>facts.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aha! You've hit on it. See, here's the thing. Using your analogy, I'm arguing this: If you go looking for ice cream, and the flavor you get is "AWESOME!!", then you'll have a blast. If you go looking for chocolate ice cream in the "AWESOME!!" bin, you won't. I understand that it was labeled chocolate. My whole "Point number 4" was all about how it's unfortunate that chocolate had to go to make room for the AWESOME!!. But let's not call the AWESOME!! "bad" just because it's not chocolate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh right, and I responded to this one already. I don't know it will be awesome. But I guess that I should preface my excitement with explicit statements of "IMHO" or "I only believe this for myself", or the like, so as not to be confused with someone trying to tell you what you think. I have a bad habit of thinking that people will live and let live, and that's it's alright to like something that others don't. That is after all, the point of my post.</p><p></p><p>But then again, I'm just a fanboy. I just like the products cause I'll buy up anything Wizards dishes out, and defend it against those darned neckbeards who come after me for it.</p><p></p><p>You got me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JackSmithIV, post: 4691397, member: 74901"] And I will quote this for response: And besides, you're being absurdly combative. Ie: See, that's just kind of offensive. I'm excited. I didn't think I'd really need to [B]justify[/B] my excitement to you. Just like I don't really need to [B]justify[/B] the individual points of a post that are completely opinion. For some reason, you always seem to be looking for proof. Chill out. You are perfectly allowed to, and obviously do, disagree with most of it. And that's fine. I'm perfectly willing to be wrong. I'll respond, however... It's a damn thick book. You can of course just disagree about the content, but every time I plan my campaign, which is entering it's 5th month, and will continue on until June? That's a [B]hell[/B] of a lot of usage. And I'm always learning new things. You're right. It wouldn't have had the draw. But that's not what I'm arguing. And of course it would make sense that it'd be compared to past incarnations. My hypothetical was mostly geared toward those who were discovering it for the first time, and therefor for them they literally had no past incarnations of the Realms that were coloring their opinion. No, you're misunderstanding my argument completely. I'm not trying to pretend the old one didn't exist. I'm trying to say that it's pretentious to deem it a "bad" product because largely, it's "bad" to people for reasons that don't exist for a large amount of players. And I don't have to provide proof, because there is none, because I'm stating something from my personal experience which may or may not be correct. Oh no, there I go with that opinion stuff again. I should just stick to the [B]facts.[/B] Aha! You've hit on it. See, here's the thing. Using your analogy, I'm arguing this: If you go looking for ice cream, and the flavor you get is "AWESOME!!", then you'll have a blast. If you go looking for chocolate ice cream in the "AWESOME!!" bin, you won't. I understand that it was labeled chocolate. My whole "Point number 4" was all about how it's unfortunate that chocolate had to go to make room for the AWESOME!!. But let's not call the AWESOME!! "bad" just because it's not chocolate. Oh right, and I responded to this one already. I don't know it will be awesome. But I guess that I should preface my excitement with explicit statements of "IMHO" or "I only believe this for myself", or the like, so as not to be confused with someone trying to tell you what you think. I have a bad habit of thinking that people will live and let live, and that's it's alright to like something that others don't. That is after all, the point of my post. But then again, I'm just a fanboy. I just like the products cause I'll buy up anything Wizards dishes out, and defend it against those darned neckbeards who come after me for it. You got me. [/QUOTE]
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