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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4722177" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>You know personally I really believe 4e needs a good setting for the rules to work in. Unfortunately I think the new Realms was too polarizing in both it's changes and the scarcity of information that was offered through the FRCG and FRPG. I hope 4e Eberron addresses this (the changes and amount of information) in a better way. I think with the implied PoL and the revamped FR, WotC already has 2 "lite" settings (never imagined I'd use that descriptor on the FR... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />), what they need now is a setting with a rich background and a nice level of detail. I didn't buy the FR setting for 4e because I had read too many reviews that cited it's lack of material & info vs. price point... I'm waiting to see if Eberron will be the same way. </p><p></p><p>Really guys I understand wanting to push the DDI subscriptions, from a business standpoint it's important, but I and many others (I believe) want a complete setting for their money that is at least comparable to the setting books we got in the 3.5 era (Ghelspad, Eberron & FR hardcovers, Dragonlance, Iron Kingdoms, etc.).</p><p></p><p> I almost wish WotC had more closely followed the way White Wolf chose to do this... certain games/settings are fully supported (Vampire, Mage, Werewolf) while others are limited runs (Promethean, Changeling, Hunter & Geist). Also I think two books, at least in 4e's layout and format, really isn't enough material for a campaign setting period (I mean the single FRCS holds probably 2x as much info as the 4e FRCS at about a comparable price point), even White Wolf makes a commitment of 5 books on it's limited lines. </p><p></p><p>I think if you continue to keep your settings at bare minimum (without a subscription to DDI) it's only going to drive many with 3.5 setting books to use that instead or turn to 3PP who offer much more at a comparable price point... I know I would do this if I wanted to run a FR game as opposed to buying the 4e versions, and if Eberron is the same way I will probably do the same with it.</p><p></p><p>These of course are just some of my thoughts. YMMV of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 4722177, member: 48965"] You know personally I really believe 4e needs a good setting for the rules to work in. Unfortunately I think the new Realms was too polarizing in both it's changes and the scarcity of information that was offered through the FRCG and FRPG. I hope 4e Eberron addresses this (the changes and amount of information) in a better way. I think with the implied PoL and the revamped FR, WotC already has 2 "lite" settings (never imagined I'd use that descriptor on the FR... :D), what they need now is a setting with a rich background and a nice level of detail. I didn't buy the FR setting for 4e because I had read too many reviews that cited it's lack of material & info vs. price point... I'm waiting to see if Eberron will be the same way. Really guys I understand wanting to push the DDI subscriptions, from a business standpoint it's important, but I and many others (I believe) want a complete setting for their money that is at least comparable to the setting books we got in the 3.5 era (Ghelspad, Eberron & FR hardcovers, Dragonlance, Iron Kingdoms, etc.). I almost wish WotC had more closely followed the way White Wolf chose to do this... certain games/settings are fully supported (Vampire, Mage, Werewolf) while others are limited runs (Promethean, Changeling, Hunter & Geist). Also I think two books, at least in 4e's layout and format, really isn't enough material for a campaign setting period (I mean the single FRCS holds probably 2x as much info as the 4e FRCS at about a comparable price point), even White Wolf makes a commitment of 5 books on it's limited lines. I think if you continue to keep your settings at bare minimum (without a subscription to DDI) it's only going to drive many with 3.5 setting books to use that instead or turn to 3PP who offer much more at a comparable price point... I know I would do this if I wanted to run a FR game as opposed to buying the 4e versions, and if Eberron is the same way I will probably do the same with it. These of course are just some of my thoughts. YMMV of course. [/QUOTE]
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