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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 4186368" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Yeah, that's pretty much it. Magic lasts a very short time in 4e. Most of it instantaneous.</p><p></p><p>Some magic(rituals) can do really extravagant things(which used to be extremely easy things for wizards to do in 3e) but require a lot of time and resources. I'm guessing most average people resort to non-magical ways to solve their problems. Even wizards.</p><p></p><p>When you want to build a house, you use a hammer, some nails and some wood. You want to explode a bunch of orcs, you use magic.</p><p></p><p>It's simply a redefining of the limitations of magic. Which might be a problem for some people as the limitation in previous editions was "none". Something as powerful as Wish is a pipe dream in 4e, from what I can tell. It's the sort of thing that wizards have been attempting to create since the beginning of time, but no one has been able to succeed.</p><p></p><p>However, it certainly gets rid of magic as the "I win" button. By this I mean:</p><p>Rogue: "I took 20 on the lock and I can't open this door. This lock is amazingly good."</p><p>Wizard: "Knock. It's open."</p><p></p><p>Bard: "I tried my best, even with my best Diplomacy roll I can't convince those people to leave the village. They say its their home and don't believe me that there are monsters coming to kill them all."</p><p>Wizard: "Charm Person. The mayor will order everyone to leave now, don't worry about it."</p><p></p><p>and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 4186368, member: 5143"] Yeah, that's pretty much it. Magic lasts a very short time in 4e. Most of it instantaneous. Some magic(rituals) can do really extravagant things(which used to be extremely easy things for wizards to do in 3e) but require a lot of time and resources. I'm guessing most average people resort to non-magical ways to solve their problems. Even wizards. When you want to build a house, you use a hammer, some nails and some wood. You want to explode a bunch of orcs, you use magic. It's simply a redefining of the limitations of magic. Which might be a problem for some people as the limitation in previous editions was "none". Something as powerful as Wish is a pipe dream in 4e, from what I can tell. It's the sort of thing that wizards have been attempting to create since the beginning of time, but no one has been able to succeed. However, it certainly gets rid of magic as the "I win" button. By this I mean: Rogue: "I took 20 on the lock and I can't open this door. This lock is amazingly good." Wizard: "Knock. It's open." Bard: "I tried my best, even with my best Diplomacy roll I can't convince those people to leave the village. They say its their home and don't believe me that there are monsters coming to kill them all." Wizard: "Charm Person. The mayor will order everyone to leave now, don't worry about it." and so on. [/QUOTE]
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