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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 110904" data-attributes="member: 114">Just to make a point - in Runequest (from which CoC was derived), you needed to roll LOW to make a skill check, and LOW to make an attack of any kind too. Attacks were just a specific kind of skill.And in a response to the original poster - again speaking just from RQ, and not CoC - Attributes were much more important than they ever used to be in pre 3e days, because they added to one or more &quot;area bonuses&quot; such as knowledge bonus (applies to all knowledge skills), Attack bonus (all attack skills), Manipulation bonus, Stealth bonus etc.It may be that they gutted RQ by simplifying it into CoC - I know the move from RQ2 to RQ3 when Chaosium sold it to Avalon Hill was entirely bad from the point of view of my gaming group. IIRC Chaosium produced a game called &quot;basic roleplaying&quot; which was a simplified form of RQ but which could be used for fantasy, sci-fi and (something else). This was then grown into CoC, Elric and probably some others too.Ah well, end of rant.Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 110904, member: 114"] Just to make a point - in Runequest (from which CoC was derived), you needed to roll LOW to make a skill check, and LOW to make an attack of any kind too. Attacks were just a specific kind of skill. And in a response to the original poster - again speaking just from RQ, and not CoC - Attributes were much more important than they ever used to be in pre 3e days, because they added to one or more "area bonuses" such as knowledge bonus (applies to all knowledge skills), Attack bonus (all attack skills), Manipulation bonus, Stealth bonus etc. It may be that they gutted RQ by simplifying it into CoC - I know the move from RQ2 to RQ3 when Chaosium sold it to Avalon Hill was entirely bad from the point of view of my gaming group. IIRC Chaosium produced a game called "basic roleplaying" which was a simplified form of RQ but which could be used for fantasy, sci-fi and (something else). This was then grown into CoC, Elric and probably some others too. Ah well, end of rant. Cheers [/QUOTE]

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