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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4174334" data-attributes="member: 40961">That's getting a bit too specific.1. If its really possible to use Con for all ax attack and damage rolls, then presumably Abel wouldn't choose to build an ax wielder in that fashion.  If Con really is the ax wielder stat, and strength is, say, the greatsword wielder stat, then asking what happens when you stat up a greatsword wielder and give him an ax is beside the point.  You're not supposed to do that anymore than you're supposed to stat up a feeble minded barbarian and then start him as a wizard.2. That's too specific in the sense that we don't actually know you can do that with an ax.  We have some places we know how things work, and can reasonably discuss them, but that's not one of them.3. For the sake of discussion, assuming that the ability to use Con for ax work functions like using Cha for paladin powers or Dex for rogue powers, then the higher strength ax wielder would have better attacks of opportunity, charges, and other non-power based attacks.  He would also be eligible for non weapon specific powers such as Cleave, which (we think) function off of one's strength score.I think 4e has dump stats.  I think which stat is a dump stat varies a LOT by class.  I definitely think that rumors of Con's demise are highly exaggerated.  I think that feats could make it possible for stats to be less dumpable, and I hope that multiclassing is fun and easy and gives yet another reason for not dumping stats.  Unfortunately, I don't know details on any of this.  I kind of wish that there were no dump stats at all, but with what we've got, it seems sort of like the profusion of martial classes has fixed this for me.  That is,Q: What do you call a high Intelligence Fighter in 4e?A: Warlord.See what I mean?  When I get the urge to play a smart guy in armor with a big sword, I'll just reach for the "smart guy in armor with a big sword" class, and do alright.</blockquote>

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