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Will CON become a dump stat?
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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4175613" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>There is no number <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/3.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":3:" title="Three :3:" data-shortname=":3:" /> </p><p></p><p>1.) Each score will STILL affect something, I'd wager.</p><p>STR: Carry Capacity, Basic Melee Attacks, Athletics</p><p>DEX: Basic ranged attacks, Initiative, Stealth, Acrobatics, Thievery</p><p>CON: Starting HP, Healing Surges, Endurance </p><p>INT: Languages, Arcana, History, Nature, Religion</p><p>WIS: Insight, Perception, Dungeoneering, Heal</p><p>CHA: Bluff, Diplomacy, Streetwise, Intimidate</p><p></p><p>So there is no a trade off:</p><p>STR/CON: More hp, or better basic bruiser/carrying?</p><p>DEX/INT: Initative or Languages (and possibly skill?)</p><p>WIS/CHA: Intuition skills or Social Skills</p><p></p><p>2.) I can marginalize an ability score in 3.5, but it requires the right feats, classes, and templates. Just a few examples.</p><p></p><p>Monk WIS to AC.</p><p>Duelist INT to AC. </p><p>Paladin CHA to Saves.</p><p>Swashbuckler: INT to wpn Damage (CW)</p><p>Wpn Finesse: DEX to hit (light wpn)</p><p>Zen Archery: WIS to hit (ranged 30') (CW)</p><p>Insightful Reflex: INT to reflex (CAd)</p><p>Force of Personality: CHA to Will (CAd)</p><p>Steadfast Determination: CON to Will (PH2)</p><p>Agile Athlete: DEX to Climb/Jump (RW)</p><p>Tactile Trapsmith: DEX to Search/Disable Device (CAd)</p><p></p><p>A swashbuckler can effectively dump-stat str, a fighter can dump-stat wis, a rogue can dump-stat str, a mage can dump-stat dex already. It just costs them a feat or a class level to do it.</p><p></p><p>Why bother and just give people the ability to do it from the get-go?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 4175613, member: 7635"] There is no number :3: 1.) Each score will STILL affect something, I'd wager. STR: Carry Capacity, Basic Melee Attacks, Athletics DEX: Basic ranged attacks, Initiative, Stealth, Acrobatics, Thievery CON: Starting HP, Healing Surges, Endurance INT: Languages, Arcana, History, Nature, Religion WIS: Insight, Perception, Dungeoneering, Heal CHA: Bluff, Diplomacy, Streetwise, Intimidate So there is no a trade off: STR/CON: More hp, or better basic bruiser/carrying? DEX/INT: Initative or Languages (and possibly skill?) WIS/CHA: Intuition skills or Social Skills 2.) I can marginalize an ability score in 3.5, but it requires the right feats, classes, and templates. Just a few examples. Monk WIS to AC. Duelist INT to AC. Paladin CHA to Saves. Swashbuckler: INT to wpn Damage (CW) Wpn Finesse: DEX to hit (light wpn) Zen Archery: WIS to hit (ranged 30') (CW) Insightful Reflex: INT to reflex (CAd) Force of Personality: CHA to Will (CAd) Steadfast Determination: CON to Will (PH2) Agile Athlete: DEX to Climb/Jump (RW) Tactile Trapsmith: DEX to Search/Disable Device (CAd) A swashbuckler can effectively dump-stat str, a fighter can dump-stat wis, a rogue can dump-stat str, a mage can dump-stat dex already. It just costs them a feat or a class level to do it. Why bother and just give people the ability to do it from the get-go? [/QUOTE]
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