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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4308945" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>The promise of 3rd party support was part of the reason I could overlook 4e's significant flaws (for my games) in various departments. I like a lot of what the game is doing, but some 3rd party games already do a lot of that stuff better (True 20 is the "Quick, Simple, Easy, Adaptable" game, Pathfinder is becoming the "In-depth, Flavorful, Broad Fantasy" game).</p><p></p><p>I'll still probably play 4e, I might even DM 4e, but I don't think it will be my System of Choice for the next 10 years. T20 and Pathfinder are probably going to replace those. 4e will get a significantly smaller chunk of my money than 3e did, and instead I'll probably be spending more in Paizo and Green Ronin's pockets (and if Mongoose pops up with an OGL game with a liscence I'm actually INTERESTED in, maybe I'll check them out, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). My 4e purchases will likely be focused on Necromancer (and other 3rd parties, to support the lil' guys) and I might pick up a WotC book or two if there's something revolutionary, or if my players will definately want to use it. </p><p></p><p>Of course, we'll see what the new Modern brings to the table, too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My experience has generally been the inverse of this.</p><p></p><p>I used the vast majority of my 3rd party stuff, but I can't say the same for my WotC stuff. I didn't use any monsters out of an MM later than the <em>Fiend Folio</em>. I didn't use any PrC's from a book later than the first Complete series. I used a few base classes out of the Tome of Magic, and the NPC's and villains in the final few books have seen a lot of use...</p><p></p><p>But I used and abused the Oathbound setting like nobody's business. I milked <em>Denizens of Avadnu</em> for all of it's wonderful worth. <em>From Stone To Steel</em> was a much more worthwhile purchase than <em>The Arms and Equipment Guide</em>. Nyambe, Northern Crown, Airships, Iron Kingdoms....</p><p></p><p>I'm not about to tell WotC what they should be doing, but I'll let 'em know gladly that this choice means that I'll be probably buying less of their books because 4e will be less the game for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 4308945, member: 2067"] The promise of 3rd party support was part of the reason I could overlook 4e's significant flaws (for my games) in various departments. I like a lot of what the game is doing, but some 3rd party games already do a lot of that stuff better (True 20 is the "Quick, Simple, Easy, Adaptable" game, Pathfinder is becoming the "In-depth, Flavorful, Broad Fantasy" game). I'll still probably play 4e, I might even DM 4e, but I don't think it will be my System of Choice for the next 10 years. T20 and Pathfinder are probably going to replace those. 4e will get a significantly smaller chunk of my money than 3e did, and instead I'll probably be spending more in Paizo and Green Ronin's pockets (and if Mongoose pops up with an OGL game with a liscence I'm actually INTERESTED in, maybe I'll check them out, too. ;)). My 4e purchases will likely be focused on Necromancer (and other 3rd parties, to support the lil' guys) and I might pick up a WotC book or two if there's something revolutionary, or if my players will definately want to use it. Of course, we'll see what the new Modern brings to the table, too. My experience has generally been the inverse of this. I used the vast majority of my 3rd party stuff, but I can't say the same for my WotC stuff. I didn't use any monsters out of an MM later than the [I]Fiend Folio[/I]. I didn't use any PrC's from a book later than the first Complete series. I used a few base classes out of the Tome of Magic, and the NPC's and villains in the final few books have seen a lot of use... But I used and abused the Oathbound setting like nobody's business. I milked [I]Denizens of Avadnu[/I] for all of it's wonderful worth. [I]From Stone To Steel[/I] was a much more worthwhile purchase than [I]The Arms and Equipment Guide[/I]. Nyambe, Northern Crown, Airships, Iron Kingdoms.... I'm not about to tell WotC what they should be doing, but I'll let 'em know gladly that this choice means that I'll be probably buying less of their books because 4e will be less the game for me. [/QUOTE]
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