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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4309212" data-attributes="member: 5038">I am not  planning to switch to 4e.  However,  third party products  brought me into  3e and d20M and play a large role in the games so they could have affected my decision at a later date depending on the offerings (including alternative mechanics).  A sample of the third party products that I use for my D&D game include the following:Adamant- Fantasy Occupations- Hot Pursuit- Hot Purusit: On FootGreen Ronin- Psychic's Handbook- Shaman's Handbook- Witchs HandbookMalhavoc- Book of Iron Might: for combat maneuvers, stunts, and fighting styles.- Book of Experimental Might: just a few bits- Book of Eldritch Might: the construct template and a few minor bitsMystic Eye Games-  Artificer's HandbookNecromancer- Tome of HorrorWhen my campaign resumes (currently, I am running M&M),  I plan to switch Arcane casters to use Elements of Magic Revised (and Lyceian Arcana) or Elements of Magic: Mythic Earth.  I also plan to buy more third party products (e.g., Advanced Bestiary, Book of Roguish Luck, and Book of Templates Deluxe, ). This of course assumes that I dont either switch to True20, HARP, or back to Rolemaster for fantasy or run a d20Modern game.</blockquote>