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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 8966453" data-attributes="member: 205">A couple points:1)  I don't think nova potential is in any way a pro of pact casting.  Full casters have just as many top level slots from levels 1-10.  Warlocks have one more 5th level slot from 11-20, but dropping 5th level slots isn't exactly a nova for Tiers 3 and 4.Now, a hypothetical "long rest pact caster", with 6 slots per LR, would be WAY too good at nova.  But that would be a lazy change to make them long rest, not a well-thought out one.2)  I don't think pact casters are really meant to be utility casters, outside of invocations.  Whether that's a bad mechanic or the intent of the design is a matter of perspective.3)  There aren't optimized builds abusing short rest slots outside of coffeelock, which really requires RAW stretching to function.  No one is recommending Pal 2/Warlock X to get sweet short rest smites, or Sorcerer 3/Warlock X for all the extra short rest sorcery points.  People dip warlock to get EB+AB or for Hexblade Cha to melee.  Getting some extra short rest smites or sorcery points is just a bonus.  The exact same multiclass builds would be optimal if warlock was a standard caster.4)  I feel like you generally don't like short rest recharge.  I don't love them either (they should be shorter and limited to 2/LR), but that's because short rests are poorly designed, not short rest resources.  Long rests are just as subject to DM fiat, after all...you can get 1 encounter per LR, or 10, or anywhere in between, and that has a far more widespread impact on class balance than short rest recharge does.</blockquote>

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