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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9769750" data-attributes="member: 6779310">Same. For 2nd or 3rd (and presumably 4th, tho' I skipped 4th other than core; I was happy enough with 3) , it's a great adjunct.It's less useful with 5th, due to different assumptions, but still, PC's it's just use their rings as is for their CW ratings. I never got much into the card game, and my kids destroyed my Diskwars disks.Which reminds me...The interlocking systems idea... TSR, GDW, FASA, WEG, & DP9 all had games at various scales for some of their major game lines. AD&D Battlesystem. Traveller's Mayday, Snapshot, Azhanti High Lightning, Imperium, Dark Nebula, Fifth Frontier war, Striker. of those, Imperium, DN, & FFW were not readily useful in most campaign stylesFASA Battletech (too many to list)FASA Renegade Legion: Interceptor, Centurion, Leviathon, Circus Imperium, Legionnaire. Legionnaire is the RPG.FASA STRPG: ST3 Ship Combat game (expanded from the core RPG rules in STRPG1e)WEG: Star Wars, Star Warriors, Star Wars Miniatures Battles (and 3 not readily used in RPG board wargames I'm too lazy to look up)DP9: Heavy Gear: the RPG and the Minis Game use the same rules. Some editions, they were a combined rulebook.DP9: Jovian Chronicles: same system as HG, and likewise, some editions combined the minis and RPG rules in one volume.I wonder if we'll see more like those.</blockquote>