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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3477029" data-attributes="member: 22882">True, as far as it goes.  However, those surveys are more than eight years old, and were strongly - I daresay exclusively - focused on the EXISTING playerbase.People who only played D&D hadn't really experienced something like the Warlock or the Book of Nine Swords maneuvers at the time of the surveys.  Perhaps the majority of existing players still prefer Vancian magic - indeed, I think it likely, if only because the majority never touch a book outside of a PHB -, but I'd be VERY surprised if the percentage isn't lower than it was at the end of 2e.  Furthermore, the end of 2e was at or near D&D's lowest ebb of popularity, one of truly a handful of times when it was only the industry leader, not, for all intents and purposes, the entire industry; at that time, people who didn't like core aspects of D&D were much less likely to be active players (and thus much less likely included in the WotC surveys) than at any other time in the game's history.At the same time, if 4e is marketed heavily towards people who have never played D&D before, with the existing fanbase considered something of an adendum to the core business of attracting new fans, a survey that covered only at-that-time D&D players certainly won't guide the design team.That's not to say 4e will dump the Vancian magic system and the baggage that goes with it (such as the egregious 1-20 power curve) - but to cite the pre-3e surveys as reasons for Wizards not to make the switch 8-10 years later seems... questionable, at best.</blockquote>

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