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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jefe Bergenstein" data-source="post: 3477160" data-attributes="member: 31506">Those are also 8 years old at least. I'm sure if you asked D&D'ers in 1990 if halflings should be allowed to be wizards, most of them would have said no as well. Plus, the pro-vancian camp may not be their target audience. If you're going to do something, do something right. Sure, you lose a few bitter old gamers, but they wouldnt like anything but a reprint of the 1st edition PHB anyways. Or OD&D, or whatever game they want to be playing, but dont for whatever bizarre reason. I want 4th edition to be a good system in its own right, rather than overly faithful to a game that its creator doesnt even play anymore. I'm all in favor of killing off vancian casting entirely. Gygax managed to trick people into thinking it was somehow iconic, which has always puzzled me. When you ask a person on the streets about wizards, the last thing anyone thinks of is a guy who memorizes three magic missiles, one jump, and two scorching rays. Monte Cook's AE system is at least approaching the image people think of, while keeping some spell slot semblance. Thats the minimum I can see them doing.With the loss of  "per day" spells, so ends the irritating D&D day, where you fight until the healer/wizard is out then fart around in a rope trick. You also no longer need "filler" encounters whose main purpose is to weed out spells from the magic users so they cant "nova" in any meaningful encounter. It only seems like a good thing to me.</blockquote>

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