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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1782539" data-attributes="member: 151">Then you obviously never encounterd many of the game-stopping bugs that the game shipped with.  Little things, like periodically crashing to desktop with no warning, crashing whenever you looked at the overland map, constantly corrupted save games or not being able to USE A MOUSE.  I didn't hear about those, I LIVED THEM.  How about a silence spell that NEVER WEARS OFF?  Atari's atrocious support (and steadfast refusal to pay Troika to work on a patch...for pay, at least) meant that a group of fans calling themselve the Circle of Eight managed to get a bugfix out sooner than the company.  Atari clearly wanted the game out, bugs or not, features or not.  That's why there was no gamma control in the actual game, presumably, and no one had fixed the memory leak problem.  Switching out to the windows video panel while the game was running (and thus let you see the effects of the change) would cause a crash.  ToEE was a great game, IF you could get it to run, and keep it running.  For many, the frustration factor was just too high.</blockquote>