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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6100252" data-attributes="member: 82106">It surely seems like that's your argument in the context of what I recall your positions being expressed as previously, but perhaps I'm missing something there. My point is that there's NOTHING weird about Mike advocating for old-school sensibilities, he's been in that camp since day one. I don't know a lot about what Mike did before 2008, I don't own any of that stuff, wasn't even slightly interested in 3e, but he's been unabashedly a 1e fan for at least the last 5 years. So when you say "Yeah, that's weird" my response is "actually, no it isn't weird". The words 'in charge' are rather a red herring, you were stating that he was responsible for AEDU being in 4e, but in fact that is not at all true, Rob Heinsoo is responsible for that. Mike might have invented the mechanic, but for all I know it was 34th in a bullet list of suggestions he made, I can't say. Rob picked it up and ran with it, and Bill Slavicek signed off on it. Had Mike been in charge who knows what we would have gotten?That's all there was to it. I'm not trying to get into some sort of fight over it. Mike probably ALWAYS had the same problems with Warlords. I don't know what would be the purpose of stating that he's acting weird now would be overall except to minimize the significance of the whole "shouting limbs back on" statement and spin it as being more acceptable to say me, as in "He's just playing devil's advocate here, look he did a lot of the core 4e design." My response is merely, "this is not weird for Mike, he's simply not in tune with my sensibilities, and 4e is not evidence to the contrary." which is at least a reasonable argument, IMHO. Anyway, if the whole thing makes sense some other way, then that's fine, I don't get it, but its not really a big deal. We're all cool. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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