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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 142667" data-attributes="member: 284">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Will this "attack combo" work (kinda Smack-downish)No.  Your normal action is either a Full Round Action or a Standard Action (composed of an MEA+Partial Action, but counted as a single action for most purposes). Correct, but the extra action from haste is not part of your normal action.  It's extra.   Just like the attack from Expert Tactician is extra. The single Standard or Full Attack action that everyone gets.  Anything outside of that is not part of your normal action.  (Free actions can be taken during your normal action, or during any extra actions you get.)Exactly. See above. It means you cannot take it during that action, even if you trigger it during your normal action.  You have to finish one action before you can take another (except for free actions, and special situations like spring attack). In this particular situation you don't have a choice, you can only take it after your current action.  (Because you didn't have the extra attack available before your action.  You triggered it during your action, so the only time left to take it is after your action.)  And technically, Expert Tactician doesn't grant a partial action, it grants a single extra attack.In the general situation of haste, taking your extra partial action before or after your normal actions gives you options such as: "Cast spell, MEA/Move, cast spell" or  "MEA/move, cast spell, MEA/move" or "cast spell, cast spell, MEA/move" or "MEA/move, full attack" or "full attack, MEA/move" It occurs right after number 4.   Your action ends, they get their dex bonus back.  The extra attack from Expert Tactician occurs after your normal action, therefore it has to happen after they have regained their dex bonus. How about "If you succeed, your misdirection makes them look elsewhere while you take a partial action.  If that partial action is an attack..."You only make them look elsewhere long enough for you to make a partial action.   After that one partial action, they are paying attention to you again, and they have their Dex bonus back.   The extra attack from Expert Tactician occurs after the partial action, and thus they have their Dex bonus agains it.  Since they only lose their Dex during the partial action on your turn,  no one else will be able to attack them before they regain their Dex bonus to AC.</blockquote>

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