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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 4051800" data-attributes="member: 704">I say retool this encounter.&nbsp; A big fight is only rewarding for the DM if the DM does not have to pull his punches.&nbsp; If you play this on as hard as you can, your going to get a TPK.&nbsp; Your players do not exactly have much in the way of healing.&nbsp; I would go with a Young adult (CR 11) dragon.&nbsp; This will get you basic Damage Reduction and Spell resistance, and a Reach attack for size.&nbsp; The breath weapon will be fairly brutal, but being a line effect, your not going to get many chances to zap multiple targets with it.&nbsp; I would also find a way to avoid giving the players any help on this.&nbsp; So why not work a Con against the players?&nbsp; The Giant does not like the dragon, but why share the loot with the players?&nbsp; Let the Dragon 'drop' the giant and then when the players have won, the Giant gets back up and takes a shot at the severely depleted and damaged players.If you want to run the fight as described, I strongly suggest that instead on one massive dragon you go with a Dragon + a number of Half Dragon minions of whatever type you care to use.&nbsp; This will let you keep the fight difficulty high, but give you a better means of adapting the encounter mid stream.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 4051800, member: 704"] I say retool this encounter. A big fight is only rewarding for the DM if the DM does not have to pull his punches. If you play this on as hard as you can, your going to get a TPK. Your players do not exactly have much in the way of healing. I would go with a Young adult (CR 11) dragon. This will get you basic Damage Reduction and Spell resistance, and a Reach attack for size. The breath weapon will be fairly brutal, but being a line effect, your not going to get many chances to zap multiple targets with it. I would also find a way to avoid giving the players any help on this. So why not work a Con against the players? The Giant does not like the dragon, but why share the loot with the players? Let the Dragon 'drop' the giant and then when the players have won, the Giant gets back up and takes a shot at the severely depleted and damaged players. If you want to run the fight as described, I strongly suggest that instead on one massive dragon you go with a Dragon + a number of Half Dragon minions of whatever type you care to use. This will let you keep the fight difficulty high, but give you a better means of adapting the encounter mid stream. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]

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