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<blockquote data-quote="BobTheNob" data-source="post: 5825084" data-attributes="member: 82425">Ya know, funnily enough me question is &quot;Does Innovation hurt the feel of D&amp;D?&quot;. My summation of 4e was that yes it did.Its not as absolute as all that, but the effect is observable in both directions. 4e was without the doubt the single most innovate and brilliant set of rules they ever came up with, but by the end of playing it what we had was a tactical mini-wargame with some concessions to RPG.D&amp;D used to be the other way around : An RPG with some concessions to combat.I loved 4e, but to me it just was not D&amp;D. The tropes were there, but the &quot;Feel&quot; was not. If I want a game as technically brilliant as that I will play one of the Dragon Age games on my PC, not gather my friends round a table. If Im going to gather friends, I want something far more open and interpretive, and Im hoping in so far as &quot;innovation&quot; is concerned, its directed toward to achieving that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BobTheNob, post: 5825084, member: 82425"] Ya know, funnily enough me question is "Does Innovation hurt the feel of D&D?". My summation of 4e was that yes it did. Its not as absolute as all that, but the effect is observable in both directions. 4e was without the doubt the single most innovate and brilliant set of rules they ever came up with, but by the end of playing it what we had was a tactical mini-wargame with some concessions to RPG. D&D used to be the other way around : An RPG with some concessions to combat. I loved 4e, but to me it just was not D&D. The tropes were there, but the "Feel" was not. If I want a game as technically brilliant as that I will play one of the Dragon Age games on my PC, not gather my friends round a table. If Im going to gather friends, I want something far more open and interpretive, and Im hoping in so far as "innovation" is concerned, its directed toward to achieving that. [/QUOTE]

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