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<blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 1591507" data-attributes="member: 354"><p>As has been pointed out a bajillion times so far, these are very, very poor analogies. The camera doesn't follow you when you go home. You don't have to submit to a background check to buy a tomato. Your rights to drink that can of coke can't be revoked. Nobody is telling you what you can and can't do with that stick of celery. That tagged book from the library wont lock shut if I read it outside of my 'designated area'. Besides, "library" is a poor analogy, unless you want to support the concept that we don't own the product we are buying. Lets try that with a bookstore, shall we?</p><p></p><p>A bookstore won't tell you in 6 months that you need to buy a new copy of the book because they updated their security system.</p><p></p><p>"Face the real world", indeed. One of the many crys to attempt to belittle people whos opinion you disagree with, that we are somehow not living in the 'real world'. </p><p></p><p>My "so called rights" are quite real, in fact. Right of First Sale, for example, as others have pointed out. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unless your one of the people who it doesn't seem to work at all for, even when the directions are followed. Unless your one of the people who have computers they need to use it on that don't connect to the internet. </p><p></p><p>And don't count your computers before you use them, to paraphrase an old saying... The official adobe line is 1 computer, ever. DTRPG claims 6. Neither acknowledge that there is any way to de-register a machine. So if we asume the most generous claim thus far, 6, that' still only six installs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh yes. The other favored claim to diminish someone's opinions: Life isn't fair, suck it up, and get over it.</p><p></p><p>Life isn't fair. You're quite right.</p><p></p><p>Would you be so willing to brush off our complaints with that statement if Acrobat 7 (The next version needed to run all NEW DRM files) was ONLY for Linux, thus leaving out your precious windows/mac?</p><p></p><p>Of course. Life isn't fair, right?</p><p></p><p>It's alot easier to say that when you aren't the one being given the proverbial finger.</p><p></p><p>The "I don't own an X-Box" thing isn't valid really as an analogy anyhow. For several reasons.</p><p></p><p>1) .pdf. <strong>Portable</strong> Document Format. It's supposed to be useable on all platforms. In point of fact, it is, in it's natural state. DRM is a tacked-on addition that prevents it from being useable as such.</p><p></p><p>2) Prior instances of the same thing DID work. This would be like, say, Fox saying "We have recalled all DVDs. Future DVDs will work only on Sony brand DVD players, and only if purchased in the last six months." Don't think some people might complain about that?</p><p></p><p>3) Imposed artificial limitation. There is no REASON these documents won't work in Linux. In point of fact, they will, if you strip the DRM encryption off. Its akin to, say... Making a new DVD format that uses a disc with an added-on extra inch of material, that does nothing, existing for the sole reason to prevent DVDs made in such a way as to prevent them from playing in non-sony DVD players. Without the added junk that does nothing, they would still work in normal players. In other words, it has been engineered in such a way as to force compliance with a newly imposed standard, when no technical reason for doing so exists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tsyr, post: 1591507, member: 354"] As has been pointed out a bajillion times so far, these are very, very poor analogies. The camera doesn't follow you when you go home. You don't have to submit to a background check to buy a tomato. Your rights to drink that can of coke can't be revoked. Nobody is telling you what you can and can't do with that stick of celery. That tagged book from the library wont lock shut if I read it outside of my 'designated area'. Besides, "library" is a poor analogy, unless you want to support the concept that we don't own the product we are buying. Lets try that with a bookstore, shall we? A bookstore won't tell you in 6 months that you need to buy a new copy of the book because they updated their security system. "Face the real world", indeed. One of the many crys to attempt to belittle people whos opinion you disagree with, that we are somehow not living in the 'real world'. My "so called rights" are quite real, in fact. Right of First Sale, for example, as others have pointed out. Unless your one of the people who it doesn't seem to work at all for, even when the directions are followed. Unless your one of the people who have computers they need to use it on that don't connect to the internet. And don't count your computers before you use them, to paraphrase an old saying... The official adobe line is 1 computer, ever. DTRPG claims 6. Neither acknowledge that there is any way to de-register a machine. So if we asume the most generous claim thus far, 6, that' still only six installs. Oh yes. The other favored claim to diminish someone's opinions: Life isn't fair, suck it up, and get over it. Life isn't fair. You're quite right. Would you be so willing to brush off our complaints with that statement if Acrobat 7 (The next version needed to run all NEW DRM files) was ONLY for Linux, thus leaving out your precious windows/mac? Of course. Life isn't fair, right? It's alot easier to say that when you aren't the one being given the proverbial finger. The "I don't own an X-Box" thing isn't valid really as an analogy anyhow. For several reasons. 1) .pdf. [B]Portable[/B] Document Format. It's supposed to be useable on all platforms. In point of fact, it is, in it's natural state. DRM is a tacked-on addition that prevents it from being useable as such. 2) Prior instances of the same thing DID work. This would be like, say, Fox saying "We have recalled all DVDs. Future DVDs will work only on Sony brand DVD players, and only if purchased in the last six months." Don't think some people might complain about that? 3) Imposed artificial limitation. There is no REASON these documents won't work in Linux. In point of fact, they will, if you strip the DRM encryption off. Its akin to, say... Making a new DVD format that uses a disc with an added-on extra inch of material, that does nothing, existing for the sole reason to prevent DVDs made in such a way as to prevent them from playing in non-sony DVD players. Without the added junk that does nothing, they would still work in normal players. In other words, it has been engineered in such a way as to force compliance with a newly imposed standard, when no technical reason for doing so exists. [/QUOTE]
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