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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orius" data-source="post: 3917441" data-attributes="member: 8863">Remember me guys?I have no idea myself.  I only recently learned about 4e (hence my return, I figered ENWorld would live up to its legacy and be informative), and I've only scratched the surface of some of the stuff.  I read the bit about wizards on the front page toda, and I have to say it seemed completely unreognizable to me.  I reall to need to learn more about what's being discussed, but for ever change that sounds good, there seems to be one or two changes that make it seem incomprehensible.  I like the 3.x ruleset too, even though I've played very little since the beginning of 3.5.  I understood that 4e would happen eventually, and most of the predictions over the past few years here seem to have been fairly accurate with an average release date of sometime in 2008.  I've always felt that 3.5 was a solid ruleset that maybe only needed a bit of tweaking and streamlining, but no really a major overhaul.  Yet that major overhaul seems to be what I'm seeing on the surface.But OTOH, I remember what things were like 8 years ago when 3e was about to be released fairly clearly.  There were a lot of doubters and bashers who didn't like it on a misinformed first impression, yet it managed to win a lot of people over.  I dunno if the same thing is going on here or what.</blockquote>