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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 7436483" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ahh. Ok. As I said, I don't have the MToF, so was only going by what I thought from various posts here. Thanks for the clarification!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uh...it was dismissive. That was my point. <em>I don't care</em> if someone wants to play a "Blessed of Corellon". It's a non-issue. Irrelevant because the entire idea of sex/sexuality/gender/whatever they call it in the book is pretty much a very VERY minor point when you look at the context of a fantasy world. Add in the whole "adventurers" thing...and my points about getting killed in horrible ways...and, well, yeah. I see it as more or less as "important" as "My character has green eyes". In my campaign it would be a very rare thing and I might stick with the whole "doppleganger" thing; I can easily see the elves that are 'blessed' trying to put a 'spin' on their actual heritage in order to try and be more accepted. Actually, that makes a lot more sense now that I think of it. Thanks for the idea! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What are you talking about? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /> Most monsters are "bad"...the same could be said for just about any large group who feel that they are the "chosen race of the world". I'm sure Orcs see Elves as "murderous alien creatures who eat orcs brains" (ok, maybe not the whole eating orc brains...but then again...). In fact, I'm sure just about every evil, neutral, and some good "races/countries" feel that they are "right" and others are "wrong". The whole "Blessed of Corellon" being a sort of 'spin' to let those who are of that...sub-race? (is that what they are?) not get killed, beaten, berated, or otherwise forced to become pariahs in their own community makes a lot more sense than "Well, <em>we're special</em>...so everyone loves us and thinks we're awesome!". I've never seen elves as being "accepting of differences outside what is a good and proper Elf"; that's where they get the haughtiness and arrogance...believing that they and their society/way is "obviously better" than everyone else. I never grocked the whole "elves are kind, gentle souls who laugh, dance and play music in the moonlight" (not for D&D at any rate).</p><p></p><p>As for "...that those playing this background have had enough of prejudice?". Roleplayers? Gamers? Tell me you're not trying to equate a fantasy role-playing game's imaginary elves with "real world stuff". Wait. You are, aren't you? ...<em>sigh</em>... I'm not biting. Nope. Nu-uhh.</p><p></p><p>No matter how you slice it, I like any major changes (if you can call it that) to a original D&D race/whatever to 'fit' into MY campaign world. If I can't fit something in...I either rework it until it does, or I just say no. Initially I was of the "don't care, but if someone wanted to..." stance. Still am, I think. But now I'm thinking of the whole half-elf-half-doppleganger thing and I really like it's potential for RP, story, motivation for NPC's, and that sort of thing.</p><p></p><p>Of course, YMMV. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 7436483, member: 45197"] Hiya. Ahh. Ok. As I said, I don't have the MToF, so was only going by what I thought from various posts here. Thanks for the clarification! Uh...it was dismissive. That was my point. [I]I don't care[/I] if someone wants to play a "Blessed of Corellon". It's a non-issue. Irrelevant because the entire idea of sex/sexuality/gender/whatever they call it in the book is pretty much a very VERY minor point when you look at the context of a fantasy world. Add in the whole "adventurers" thing...and my points about getting killed in horrible ways...and, well, yeah. I see it as more or less as "important" as "My character has green eyes". In my campaign it would be a very rare thing and I might stick with the whole "doppleganger" thing; I can easily see the elves that are 'blessed' trying to put a 'spin' on their actual heritage in order to try and be more accepted. Actually, that makes a lot more sense now that I think of it. Thanks for the idea! :) What are you talking about? o_O Most monsters are "bad"...the same could be said for just about any large group who feel that they are the "chosen race of the world". I'm sure Orcs see Elves as "murderous alien creatures who eat orcs brains" (ok, maybe not the whole eating orc brains...but then again...). In fact, I'm sure just about every evil, neutral, and some good "races/countries" feel that they are "right" and others are "wrong". The whole "Blessed of Corellon" being a sort of 'spin' to let those who are of that...sub-race? (is that what they are?) not get killed, beaten, berated, or otherwise forced to become pariahs in their own community makes a lot more sense than "Well, [I]we're special[/I]...so everyone loves us and thinks we're awesome!". I've never seen elves as being "accepting of differences outside what is a good and proper Elf"; that's where they get the haughtiness and arrogance...believing that they and their society/way is "obviously better" than everyone else. I never grocked the whole "elves are kind, gentle souls who laugh, dance and play music in the moonlight" (not for D&D at any rate). As for "...that those playing this background have had enough of prejudice?". Roleplayers? Gamers? Tell me you're not trying to equate a fantasy role-playing game's imaginary elves with "real world stuff". Wait. You are, aren't you? ...[I]sigh[/I]... I'm not biting. Nope. Nu-uhh. No matter how you slice it, I like any major changes (if you can call it that) to a original D&D race/whatever to 'fit' into MY campaign world. If I can't fit something in...I either rework it until it does, or I just say no. Initially I was of the "don't care, but if someone wanted to..." stance. Still am, I think. But now I'm thinking of the whole half-elf-half-doppleganger thing and I really like it's potential for RP, story, motivation for NPC's, and that sort of thing. Of course, YMMV. :) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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