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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mythusmage" data-source="post: 2717055" data-attributes="member: 571">I see the material component requirement as more a game limitation, something imposed lest the players start bringing folks back willy-nilly. At the same time the gods involved would likely want some sort of sacrifice as a token of intent. Said sacrifice ranging from a period of service up to, at the worst, the life of another sapient. Perhaps many. You want your ranger back, then that village of (rare, peaceful, friendly, lawful good, let's hope they spread and replace all the standard) orcs has to die.The 10,000 gold piece gem requirement bothers me because it ignores a few matters. First is the matter of gem value fluctuation. Even when the gem supply remains steady the price of gems will vary depending on demand. Add in falling supply and life gets complicated. With most anybody doing a resurrection gems of all types are going to appreciate in value, possibly drastcally. Perhaps to the point where even semi-precious stones are going to be going for a hefty price. It also takes a lot of beauty out of the world, whether by destroying it, or by causing it to be locked away.. Second is the matter of sacrificing to bring a friend back. How much is it worth to you? How much are you willing to pay? An afternoon working on a chapel's landscaping? The lives of innocents? Somewhere inbetween? That is, how serious are you about bringing a party member back?And would you violate your code of ethics? Now there's a big one. Demands need not be straightforward things, even good gods can be manipulative bastards. You agree to kill three pre-teen girls you could well be damning your chances of bringing your buddy back, but if you refuse he gets to return. It becomes important to know your god and how he operates.(Let's say you agree to the sacrifice, kill the children, and your bud comes back. How is he going to feel about it? What if you say no, find a different cleric to get the resurrection done, and your god engineers the girls' deaths anyway? What are you going to do then?)Getting back to legal matters, what is the status of returnees brought back illegally? On a related note, their moral status? Are they treated as undead. Could they be turned or destroyed as undead. (Imagine the look on the paladin's face when he learns he's now the legal and ethical equivalent of a vampire. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> )As for post mortality experiences and changes, that's worthy of a thread all its own.FickleGM, thanks for advancing this sub-topic. (Any chance of two people getting a PDF?)PDF: The Elements of Magic: Mythic Earth</blockquote>

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