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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arthedain" data-source="post: 1851796" data-attributes="member: 17748">HiAfter a rather heated discussion with one of my players I would appreciate some input from you folks. The subject in question :Is it possible for a flying creature to use the Wingover feat (turn 180 degrees, free action but costs 10 ft movement) and then charge?The situation that sparked the discussion was this :My player's character, a 12.level druid, was airborne approx. 30-40 ft behind a young red dragon (size large) with a githyanki rider (with Spirited Charge, and a heavy lance). The player was confident that the dragon couldn't catch him, since dragons are large, lumbering creatures with low manouverability. When it was the githyanki's turn I had the dragon do a 180 degree turn, thus using 10 ft of its 150 ft movement, and then charging. One bite attack from the dragon, and one solid hit with the lance later, and the druid is below -10. The player is of the opinion that wingover shouldn't be available to creatures with low manouverability, and he also feels that I'm exploiting loopholes in the rules. After all, the charge-action states that you can't take a 5-foot step, so why should it be allowed to do a wingover, which "costs" 10 ft of movement. In my opinion, I'm using Wingover as written in the MM (3.5), and since it is a free action, the dragon/githyanki rider is free to make a charge. This, of course, enables the githyanki (a Ftr4/Wiz3/Dragonrider3 [Draconomicon], by the way) to use his Spirited Charge feat to potentially devestating effect.Any comments or critisism are appreciated. Thanks in advance!</blockquote>

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