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<blockquote data-quote="Stoat" data-source="post: 5719769" data-attributes="member: 16786">Heyguys, if you want to talk about plotted vs. unplotted adventures, would you kindly fork off a new thread?&nbsp; I'm here to talk about the Tomb of Horrors.Area 25D.&nbsp; Ebony Dais and Silver ThroneAn area 30 feet square in the center of the south wall of the Pillared Throne Room is dominated by a huge black dais.&nbsp; Although the subheading for this section says the throne is silver, the text says the throne is obsidian inlaid with silver and ivory skulls.&nbsp; Either way, it's very Brutal Legend.<a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ToH_Gallery/ToHGraphic25d.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ToH_Gallery/ToHGraphic25d.jpg</a>There's a gold crown and an electrum scepter sitting on the throne.&nbsp; Both radiate magic.&nbsp; One end of the scepter is gold, the other is silver.&nbsp; There's also a little silver crown inlaid on the throne.&nbsp; You can see it in the picture.When worn, the crown &quot;negates the pillars' levitation effects&quot; and allows the wearer to see within Area 25 as if it were broad daylight.&nbsp; However, &quot;outside this place&quot; the wearer is blind.&nbsp; The person wearing the crown knows that it can only be removed by touching it with the scepter.Accordingly, touching the gold crown with the gold end of the scepter will allow the wearer to remove the crown.&nbsp; Touching the gold crown with the silver end of the scepter turns the wearer into nasty, fetid dust (no save).&nbsp; Touching the silver crown inlaid on the throne with the silver end of the scepter opens a path forward.&nbsp; The throne sinks into the floor, and there's a tunnel behind it.&nbsp; There does not seem to be any ill effect if the silver crown is touched with the gold end of the scepter.The crown and scepter are worth a total of 40,000 gp, but demons will chase after anybody who takes them out of the Tomb.IMO:&nbsp; &quot;Into the columned hall you'll come, and there the throne that's key and keyed.&quot;&nbsp; The players found a key back in Area 19, but that's not what the riddle is talking about.&nbsp; The key to the throne is actually the scepter.On one hand, the bit with the scepter and the crowns is pretty straightforward.&nbsp; The silver end of the scepter goes with the silver crown.&nbsp; The gold end of the scepter goes with the gold crown.&nbsp;&nbsp; On the other hand, I don't see any clue, hint, riddle or other indication that a group of clever PC's could use to work this out.&nbsp; It seems like random guessing or divination magic is the order of the day.&nbsp; Have I missed something?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stoat, post: 5719769, member: 16786"] Heyguys, if you want to talk about plotted vs. unplotted adventures, would you kindly fork off a new thread? I'm here to talk about the Tomb of Horrors. [b]Area 25D. Ebony Dais and Silver Throne[/b] An area 30 feet square in the center of the south wall of the Pillared Throne Room is dominated by a huge black dais. Although the subheading for this section says the throne is silver, the text says the throne is obsidian inlaid with silver and ivory skulls. Either way, it's very Brutal Legend. [url]http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/ToH_Gallery/ToHGraphic25d.jpg[/url] There's a gold crown and an electrum scepter sitting on the throne. Both radiate magic. One end of the scepter is gold, the other is silver. There's also a little silver crown inlaid on the throne. You can see it in the picture. When worn, the crown "negates the pillars' levitation effects" and allows the wearer to see within Area 25 as if it were broad daylight. However, "outside this place" the wearer is blind. The person wearing the crown knows that it can only be removed by touching it with the scepter. Accordingly, touching the gold crown with the gold end of the scepter will allow the wearer to remove the crown. Touching the gold crown with the silver end of the scepter turns the wearer into nasty, fetid dust (no save). Touching the silver crown inlaid on the throne with the silver end of the scepter opens a path forward. The throne sinks into the floor, and there's a tunnel behind it. There does not seem to be any ill effect if the silver crown is touched with the gold end of the scepter. The crown and scepter are worth a total of 40,000 gp, but demons will chase after anybody who takes them out of the Tomb. IMO: "Into the columned hall you'll come, and there the throne that's key and keyed." The players found a key back in Area 19, but that's not what the riddle is talking about. The key to the throne is actually the scepter. On one hand, the bit with the scepter and the crowns is pretty straightforward. The silver end of the scepter goes with the silver crown. The gold end of the scepter goes with the gold crown. On the other hand, I don't see any clue, hint, riddle or other indication that a group of clever PC's could use to work this out. It seems like random guessing or divination magic is the order of the day. Have I missed something? [/QUOTE]

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