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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shmoo2" data-source="post: 5728483" data-attributes="member: 6847">Sorry to necromancer an earlier section of this thread.I think that the concerns about how easy/hard it is to find the secret doors in the Tomb are a result of the (also mentioned in this thread) linear design of the dungeon.There are at least 8 secret doors in the Tomb that must be found, or the party can't proceed. This makes the party's ability to find secret doors, and the DM's reading of the rules about finding them to be vital. A DM who allows elves a chance to notice secret doors merely by passing by and allows rerolls to search for them actively will create a completely different experience in the Tomb from a DM who allows neither of those things.Compare (again) Tomb of Horrors to Hidden Shrine of Tomoachan, which has lots and lots of secret doors, but only 1 (area 16) which must be found [and it's pretty clearly called out in the box text and illustration].</blockquote>