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<blockquote data-quote="Mannahnin" data-source="post: 9823824" data-attributes="member: 7026594"><p>My recollection is that it's a colloquialism from Gondor, where they have no personal experience with the Hobbit culture. Halfling is a descriptive term for the Hobbits, used by a people who don't actually interact with them. I don't think it has a dismissive tone in the books; I think that may be carryover from line readings in the movies- Sean Bean's and the orcs'. They do tend to see the Hobbits as weaker, due to being diminutive, but the term is descriptive rather than pejorative. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In Tolkien Orc is really a synonym for Goblin, and there's a range in how big or strong they are. IME there was a goodly range of artists interpretations of them in the 70s and 80s, with many depicting them a bit smaller, a better match for the Dwarves in The Hobbit. D&D and Warhammer after it more strictly categorized Goblins as the smaller, weaker ones, and Orcs as the more man-sized, stronger ones. And it wasn't until the 90s that GW's Orcs and World of Warcraft's (based on GW's) got increasingly big and beefy to make them more dramatic and scary in the more visual mediums of miniatures and video games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep. It's another place where the script of the Jackson movies change things to add surprise and suspense. When you read the books and watch the movies relatively close together, this pattern jumps out a lot. Building in more moments of surprise and even jump scares to keep the energy high and dynamic for film audiences.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's both. The White Wizard is indeed chief of the order. Once Saruman abdicates his position/responsibility/authority, the way is open for the sent-back Gandalf to take over that role.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Both, IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mannahnin, post: 9823824, member: 7026594"] My recollection is that it's a colloquialism from Gondor, where they have no personal experience with the Hobbit culture. Halfling is a descriptive term for the Hobbits, used by a people who don't actually interact with them. I don't think it has a dismissive tone in the books; I think that may be carryover from line readings in the movies- Sean Bean's and the orcs'. They do tend to see the Hobbits as weaker, due to being diminutive, but the term is descriptive rather than pejorative. In Tolkien Orc is really a synonym for Goblin, and there's a range in how big or strong they are. IME there was a goodly range of artists interpretations of them in the 70s and 80s, with many depicting them a bit smaller, a better match for the Dwarves in The Hobbit. D&D and Warhammer after it more strictly categorized Goblins as the smaller, weaker ones, and Orcs as the more man-sized, stronger ones. And it wasn't until the 90s that GW's Orcs and World of Warcraft's (based on GW's) got increasingly big and beefy to make them more dramatic and scary in the more visual mediums of miniatures and video games. Yep. It's another place where the script of the Jackson movies change things to add surprise and suspense. When you read the books and watch the movies relatively close together, this pattern jumps out a lot. Building in more moments of surprise and even jump scares to keep the energy high and dynamic for film audiences. It's both. The White Wizard is indeed chief of the order. Once Saruman abdicates his position/responsibility/authority, the way is open for the sent-back Gandalf to take over that role. Both, IMO. Yep. [/QUOTE]
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