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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Libertad" data-source="post: 9824912" data-attributes="member: 6750502">I haven't done any more reading yet, but I did want to talk about the Dunlendings and why I find them fascinating. This came after jumping through various fan wikis and reddit discussions.They're a group that appears to have some legitimate historical grievances for their treatment by other Men in the past (Numenoreans burning their forests, their leader Freca being killed by Helm, etc), but their hatred is used and manipulated by Saruman, who also feeds them false information like claiming that the Rohirrim burn PoWs alive.There's also a clear contrast in the story of how at least in comparison to the orcs, who fought to the death and were given no quarter, there's an implication that during the 4th Age there was a slow peace or at least non-aggression pact being made with the Dunlendings and Rohan.And yes, I am aware that Tolkien had very conflicted feelings on the orcs, but it's kind of interesting to see between the groups serving Saruman, the Dunlendings are still villainous but more "reasonable" in comparison to the orcs' portrayal. At least what I've read so far.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU_zsyulWDg" target="_blank">It was apparently part of the extended edition, </a>but there was a scene in Jacksons' Two Towers where Saruman was giving a speech to them, and the Dunlendings were portrayed as being rather primitive, mostly clad in leathers and furs and holding spears and knives. And one of their leaders swears an oath of service to Saruman.But in seeing various other portrayals, I've seen them range from having war gear on par with Rohan and Gondor such as wearing chainmail and swords, and others where they're basically Conan-style half-naked warrior dudes. Then again, one could argue that the former example is Saruman outfitting them with more proper gear, but it does make me wonder if they're more meant to be like Gondor/Rohan in being another established feudal (yet relatively impoverished) people who end up aligned with the Enemy or the stereotypical "primitive evil hordes." Or maybe there's multiple groups at different technology levels.Various interpretations I've seen of Dunlending art:[MEDIA=pinterest]320881542209781672[/MEDIA][MEDIA=pinterest]320881542209781674[/MEDIA][MEDIA=pinterest]320881542209781675[/MEDIA][MEDIA=pinterest]320881542209781629[/MEDIA]<img src="https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/49bc65a4ae56.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="1024x802" style="width: 585px" /><img src="https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/616f4e1fdba3.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="1512x1155" style="width: 582px" /></blockquote>

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