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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 3813099" data-attributes="member: 6533">All right, under protest but with regard to the OP, here's why I want 4E to be 'Exalted with DnD on the cover':A.) The things you mention as porting over from Exalted are the only things I like about the Exalted setting. <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Giving Players and DMs both a role in description, particularly in terms of stunts and social challenges</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Settings where the laws of excellence are more important than the laws of physics</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">An understanding right from the start that no player will be sub-optimal or useless and that each character should have multiple dimensions even if they have a specialty</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">A setting where the cosmology bleeds into the world and its history</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Teh Awesome</li> </ol>B.) Aside from those things DnD does everything better.<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DnD encompasses a range of heroic experiences, and each point in the range always carries risk for both success and failure</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Classes, races, and levels are a wondeful and evocative mechanic, capable of both great simplicity and great complexity</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DnD is tools based, sure there are settings, but you as the DM are the world builder, the tools and materials provide suggestions, whereas in Exalted its very hard to see how you would take the tools out of the plan</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DnD is tactical as well as character driven, strategic as well as descriptive</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">DnD gives you all that and the kitchen sink and tells you to throw it in, Exalted puts you in a room with all that and a specific kitchen sink and invites you to throw it out.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">It's freakin Dungeons and Dragons, there's thirty years of fluff you can use with almost any version of the DnDisms, or not, and there's plenty of support you can use or not</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Exalted is artistic capable of being complex, DnD is complex capable of being artistic</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">5 foot steps</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Beholders</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Boots of Elvenkind</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">And DnD needs the good parts of Exalted, and those good points really don't need the bad parts of Exalted.</li> </ol></blockquote>

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