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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kwalish Kid" data-source="post: 4278883" data-attributes="member: 446">This is the perfect representation of an argument that 4E is like a video game.I mean, seriously, this seems to represent the core logic of the argument.On its face, it is a non sequitor; that is, the argument presents premises that bear no relationship to the conclusion.If we accept, however, that there is some sort of reasoning here, then we must accept not that what is being argued for is that 4E is like a coputer game, simpliciter, but that 4E is like a certain kind of computer game.If we accept that all kinds of D&D are like a kind of computer game, then all that the argument needs to do is delineate what kind of computer game 4E is to be considered. And that's exactly what the arguer above has done. They are distinguishing between 1E, which was like a text-based MUD, and 4E, which uses contemporary techniques to appear more realistic or immersive.If realism or immersion is a problem, then I fear that 4E will be problematic.</blockquote>