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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Camelot" data-source="post: 5102447" data-attributes="member: 82617">Let's see if I can explain my thoughts right. Wisdom to me is not simply experience applied to knowledge. Wisdom is the knowledge you gain from experience that you wouldn't be able to gain from studying and memorizing. The Wisdom knowledge skills (Dungeoneering, Nature, and Heal, in 4e at least) represent knowledge that is gained from experiencing it first hand, not just reading from books. The way I see Intelligence vs. Wisdom for these skills is that a smart person memorizes facts and can recall them quickly, but a wise person can take what they know and see patterns in their experiences that they can apply to new experiences. You could argue that a smart person can study how to forage for food in the wild, an activity covered by Nature. But they've never actually experienced being in the wild and having to find food before you run out; they'll quickly realize that actually experiencing it is a lot different from what they've read. Wisdom also helps maintain calm so you can succeed at what you're trying to do. Also, things requiring the Wisdom skills are changing, wild, and unpredictable. You might come across food while foraging that you've never seen, but if you can tell that it's orange like those poisonous berries you once ate, you'll know to avoid it. You might come across a creature you've never seen or heard of before, but you see that it has traits similar to another creature, and you can project other qualities from that creature onto this one that are most likely accurate. You might be trying to heal your ally with improvised methods, but given your experience you can create medical tools from the things you have at hand. On the divinity thing, gods want you to know why you're fighting for them.  They don't want you to blindly follow their dogma without reason, because you might misinterprete things, like the Pharisees did with working on Sunday (sorry for the biblical reference if this insults anybody, but it's a good analogy). For the primal power source, it goes back to experience.  The spirits are not something you can study and channel.  You really need to fight for their cause and understand what you're doing. For psionics, that is definitely not something you can study and pick up.  You have to really train your mind to be able to channel the unpredictable source of psionics. Even some martial classes need a little Wisdom, and again this is because they need experience at fighting, not just reading about maneuvers.  Wisdom in this case could be seen as practice. The arcane source is all about Intelligence.  Magic is predictable, even in its most wildest forms (this is argueable, true, but I'm not going to get into that), and if you study hard enough and are able to memorize the facts, you can control it.  When wisdom is important here, it's just experience, like with martial classes. That's just my ramblings. Even if my thoughts seem incoherent, I agree with those who say Intelligence and Wisdom are two seperate things, and it's not too hard to see why.</blockquote>

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