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<blockquote data-quote="FarBeyondC" data-source="post: 7971501" data-attributes="member: 6803170">No effect, period (perceptible or otherwise). Otherwise, yes.You can cast fireball without choosing a point; it'll just go somewhere random in its range. If a player says &quot;I want to cast fireball at nowhere, in order to waste my spellslot?&quot; I'll ask them to show me where nowhere is.Unlike the previous example, this is possible; unless something else is concentrating for them, they go invisible for an instant, then the spell ends (due to lack of concentration) and they become visible again.No, because the act of casting a spell that requires concentration (whether you decide to concentrate on it or not) breaks concentration on previously cast spell.The spell still takes effect.- If the caster aims the spell at a location where nothing is, it misses.- If the caster aims the spell at a location where something is, even if the caster isn't aware of that something being there, an attack roll will be made to see if the spell hits. If the player refuses to make the attack roll, the attack roll will be made on their behalf.- If the caster refuses to aim the spell, the spell will be made to go in a random direction.Purposefully missing with the spell is possible (spell goes where creatures aren't), but the spell always does something, even if that something is simply waste the spell slot and time used to cast it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FarBeyondC, post: 7971501, member: 6803170"] No effect, period (perceptible or otherwise). Otherwise, yes. You can cast fireball without choosing a point; it'll just go somewhere random in its range. If a player says "I want to cast fireball at nowhere, in order to waste my spellslot?" I'll ask them to show me where nowhere is. Unlike the previous example, this is possible; unless something else is concentrating for them, they go invisible for an instant, then the spell ends (due to lack of concentration) and they become visible again. No, because the act of casting a spell that requires concentration (whether you decide to concentrate on it or not) breaks concentration on previously cast spell. The spell still takes effect. - If the caster aims the spell at a location where nothing is, it misses. - If the caster aims the spell at a location where something is, even if the caster isn't aware of that something being there, an attack roll will be made to see if the spell hits. If the player refuses to make the attack roll, the attack roll will be made on their behalf. - If the caster refuses to aim the spell, the spell will be made to go in a random direction. Purposefully missing with the spell is possible (spell goes where creatures aren't), but the spell always does [I]something[/I], even if that something is simply waste the spell slot and time used to cast it. [/QUOTE]

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